Bring on the politicians! nice to see many of them in the Green ranks coming out to support STV for purely partisan reasons, after all it was pounded into 160 self /randomly selected citizens that politicians "hate it" right?

I like how Tsakumis tied together the treaty process, the sinking of the queen of the north and the convention center.

Tsakumis is right. Gordon Campbell has become arrogant to think that we will fall for it.It's his mess so his ministers should not have to clean up for him.

Rick, as seen in PEI and Ontario, your precious MMP is unwanted by voters.

There was a reason why your colleagues in BC made the right decision which deliver us 57% of the votes as opposed to the 36% for MMP.

http://www.citizensassembly.gov.on.ca/en-CA/Get-Involved/View-And-Search-Submissions/Detailed-View.aspx?ID=1110

Actually, a very large percentage of people interested in Electoral reform are very interested in the MMP system,REFORM OF ANY KIND is unwanted by those voters, if you think those two provinces would have jumped at the chance to implement an STV system instead, well you fill your boots,while your gloating over recent events, make sure you put them into context, it's a shame the premier refused to do this right and let we the voters decide on which system is best for B.C., I'm curious, do you really believe an STV proposal would have garnered 60% in Ontario?

It will, once BC passes it.

While many of us support STV, we did our best to help our colleagues out in Ontario because we think any change big or small is better than the status quo.

Had MMP been proposed in BC, I have my serious doubts as to whether it would have been able to achieve 50%, but the STV hardcore would have likely held our nose and supported it.

The best the "no" side could do in BC was try and confuse voters, and the arguments are still out there. The only people with a legitimate ground to dislike STV are people who believe that a government should have an absolute mandate under a majority.

Unlike MMP (especially with closed lists), there are very credible arguments against STV that have any traction. However, MMP is a pro-rep bandage, which keeps all of the problems with the current system and hands out a few consolation seats to parties that can't win a local election. The only systems I have seen with MMP that seem to work are so modified (broken into regions, open lists, etc.) that it is practically STV.

Notwithstanding Daniel Grice's dishonesty in painting with such a broad brush with repsect to those of us astute enough to oppose the insanity of STV, no majority government has ever had absolute power.

Lest Mr. Grice and his greasy thinkers forget, those who govern with any semblance of absoluteness, are relegated to the trash heap in the very next polls usually.

That's democracy Danny. You'd better get used to it since your now a bigshot, successful poltician.

Lord give us hope that the Green Party will appropriately become the birdcage liner of the next election. With Elizabeth Mayday, it's certainly likely.

I'm glad Mr. Tsakumis is so fond of pointing out the insanity of having a representative legislature and using a preferential ballot.

While Alex and the astute old boys' may like the lump and dump politics that exist in BC, some of us greasy thinkers are yearning for the day when the electorate are given a little bit of respect and we see a government that reflects the real intentions of the voters.