Joyce is coming here from New West so why not Howard from Richmond?

Mary hasn't made any impact with her nomination campaign and doesn't seem personally suited to be a candidate. Lots of hard work talking to real people involved in that, not the usual socialite high priced charity event type work to do.

Her connections to Liberal Gordon Campbell don't make her very attractive to Conservatives as well. I hear Mark Giles is running the show, Campbell's main election guy.

Mary is apparently high-up on Harpor's list of potential potted plants for photo-ops. Maybe that she adds a touch of upper-crust class, along with a nice resume for the urban battle, while willing to sit on her hands and say nothing if elected.
Joyce Murray grew up in this riding. She lives in this riding. It's a little different than being someone who failed in Richmond daily taking the oak street bridge to shake babies and kiss hands...

Mrs Murray lives in the riding and has assembled an impressive list of organizers. I look forward to the smack down shes going to lay on the Cons in Quadra.

Mrs Murray lives in the riding and has assembled an impressive list of organizers. I look forward to the smack down shes going to lay on the Cons in Quadra.

Did not Joyce murray win because most of her support came from outside the riding based on a section of the Liberal Party constitution that allows people that do have to live in Vancouver Quadra to vote in the nomination meeting?

Joyce Murray took a crap kicking from Alex Tsakumis on Omni TV recently. Is she the right candidate for Quadra - hell no.

Stephane Dion and her deserve each other as they both like to make things up. Dion insulted Douglas Jung and Chinese Canadians by saying that the Liberals elected the first Chinese Canadian elected to Parliament ever in Art Lee. Why do I bring this up because joyce Murray continues to say the majority of membership for Vancouver Quadra voted for her. I guess democracy is still a foreign word to Liberals.

To quote a person who knows how to lay the smackdown. "Joyce Murray and her candidacy are ten pounds of monkey crap in a five pound bag."

*clang! clang!*

"Ladies and Gentlemennnn..."

...welcome to... the Main Event..."

...Llllet's get ready to Rrrrumbllllle!"

*cue "Are you ready for This?"

Sorry, who are the impressive list of organisers from the Liberals? I think Mary has this in the bag.

Have they announced the date of the conservative nomination meeting yet?

"Joyce Murray grew up in this riding. She lives in this riding."

The above came out of burlivespipe. And then from George Boswell we get:

"Mrs Murray lives in the riding and has assembled an impressive list of organizers. I look forward to the smack down shes going to lay on the Cons in Quadra."

Where do people get the idea that these kind of talking points or media lines will persuade anyone of anything? Why do people spend time posting extracts from brochures?

For what it's worth, I think Vancouver Quadra will roll over to the Conservatives, and if the NDP has a strong candidate, they'll place second. Joyce Murray's "environmental credibility" is below zero because of her time as Environment Minister for the provincial Liberals.

Even if, as everyone expects, all the environmental NGOs with Westside office suites are pumping flat out for Stephane Dion and the Liberals and pouring vitriolic abuse on both Conservatives and New Democrats, real voters who actually care about the issue are going to see though the interest group smokescreen and realize that the urgent pleading is really special pleading.

Mike Witherly has had the federal Liberal campaign work promised to his firm kiboshed for the time being, and has signed on to help Joyce out. For the amount he claims to charge people, the actually renumeration is shockingly low.

Speaking of Joyce Murray. Is Cameron St.John still Joyce's campaign manager? Someone who attended Joyce's Ignatieff event told me Kim Emsley-Leik was now Joyce's campaign manager.

With all this key dancing and hero worship of campaign organizers, what about the people who matter in a by-election, the volunteers??

Seems to be more of a hero worship and gawking as the 'star' campaign managers and organizers walk down the red carpet.

What's next? How Witherly likes his eggs in the morning?

Michael Witherly doesn't eat eggs for breakfast. He eats Conservatives for breakfast. He doesn't bother with the NDP because he realizes that, despite the labels they put on themselves, there is an absolute lack of substance to them.

Cameron St John has moved from vetran superstar organizer to the Organizer hall of fame.

Us organizers and so called political hacks ( Fraser Malcom excluded) can only do it for so long. They realize frying a bigger fish not only feeds the family, but it feeds the province.

You see some political organizers fadway and run for parks board, some are crazy and think they are going to make a carrier out of being a campaign manger only to spend until they are 45 getting bald and pissing everyone off. Some get a career lobbying for booze, some win a national leadership campaign and some are young politico’s are in waiting to destroy that 45 year old bald organizer who’s finished.

In the meantime you can picture Cameron sitting on a Yacht in Mexico with his feet up sipping his Geniuses and enjoying retirement. I think there’s more in store for CSJ and I don’t think we’ve seen the last of this Political Luminary.