A question of priorities

Earlier this morning, provincial New Democrat leader Carole James issued a statement saying the "NDP Caucus has now had an opportunity to carefully consider the report of the independent panel on MLA compensation. And we thank the authors for their detailed proposals. The NDP Caucus does not accept the report's recommendations. We feel that they are out of step with what is acceptable to British Columbians. MLA compensation is a difficult and complex issue. But any further consideration of the matter is not a high priority for the NDP Caucus at this time." Fair enough. But could it be that some New Democrat legislators aren't, in fact, in agreement with that final sentence? Could it be some of them were less than pleased when their leader took the question of MLA compensation off the agenda? Asked specifically by Public Eye if that position had been endorsed by caucus, Ms. James said, "We have had a good discussion. We put together our position last night. And that's our position as caucus."

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So let’s see. When the MLA’s come up with their own pay increase plan; everyone agrees and Carole James tails out for Saskatchewan. The moment there is any controversy Carole James folds like a cheap deck of cards and flip flops on her agreement. She claims the pay raise process should be independent instead. Now we have an independent process, at great expense to the taxpayer no doubt, and once again Carole James flip flops and now seems to think that MLA pay is low priority. If she is opposed to pay increases why not just come out and say so ? I wonder how many of her caucus were led down the garden path before being sold out again ?

Hopefully this will once and for all be the end of MLA pay raises and pension. I know I am sick of the topic.

Oh Kevin it must be tough sticking up for a 56% pay increase for your premier.

I listened to Carole James on BCTV. She said 29% was too much and out of line with what ordinary folks expect. So her caucus will vote against it.

That's not a flip flop. That's common sense. Even you Liberals can't stack enough phone lines to change that.

I am not defending the pay increase by any stretch. I am just pointing out that last time she agreed to it and then changed her mind and said the process should be handled independently. Now that has been done and she is saying she doesn’t think MLA’s deserve a raise at all and it is now a low priority. My only point was why not simply just come out and say she is opposed to any pay increase in the first place.? She has had two years to say so and she has said anything but.

"I am not defending the pay increase by any stretch. I am just pointing out that last time she agreed to it and then changed her mind and said the process should be handled independently."

And she was right, it should be done independently... at the time, there was an uproar because the NDP and Liberals struck that deal in the backrooms. She felt the heat and backed down -- If only more politicians did the same when they're clearly in the wrong.

"Now that has been done and she is saying she doesn’t think MLA’s deserve a raise at all and it is now a low priority. "

She said no such thing, she said the current package is too rich. Many agree with her.

And yeah, the bit about it being a "low priority" is politicking... imagine, a politician doing that.

You Liberal-Hacks are sooo dumb.

If Gordon Cambell said the pay-raise
will "attarct a higher quality of candidate,,,

how does he justify himself...?

( I mean we offered him lower money than he's demanding NOW...!!!!! )

Is he saying that he's a low-life...?
( a little different from me saying so)

--------- People on welfair got $50.oo

The disabled WHO CAN-NOT WORK,
hadn't had a pay-raise since the 1990's

and what did we get....? $50.oo

and yet our rents have all gone up,,,,
food costs more,
telephone costs more,
milk costs more,
bread costs more,,,, ( et-fricken-barfem)

------- by Cambell's logic ...? ------

Paying people on welfair more money,
WILL ATTRACT A HIGHER-CLASS person to the system...!!!!!

(he's not making that kind of arguement is he.)

-- if he's concerned about "LOW-QUALITY-CANDIDATES ----

Perhaps he should be working on a mechanism
so we (the people) can get rid of them faster.

ie: a fixed election date doesn't cut it...!

(and obviously Re-Call doesn't work due to ECCESSIVE media-manipulation)

-- AND, ---- by the way -------

A $50.oo increase on a $876.oo/month pay,

IS NOT A 29% INCREASE....!

A $50.oo/month increase on the standard
$510.oo/month welfair income,
IS NOT 29% ...!

-------- lastly ---------

perhaps Cambell is right,

obviously he can't DO THE MATH...!

( he is totally INCOMPETENT )

there-fore, definatly NOT WORTH THE MONEY
WE ALREADY PAID HIM.

ted... (disability sucks)

"The moment there is any controversy Carole James folds like a cheap deck of cards and flip flops on her agreement. ... Now we have an independent process, at great expense to the taxpayer no doubt, and once again Carole James flip flops ... Hopefully this will once and for all be the end of MLA pay raises and pension. I know I am sick of the topic.

... I am just pointing out that last time she agreed to it and then changed her mind and said the process should be handled independently. Now that has been done and she is saying she doesn’t think MLA’s deserve a raise at all."

Kevin Larsen must be one of the people that Basi and Virk recruited to make prank phone calls. Is he still being paid from the $20,000 pot, or did that run dry a long time ago?

As Larsen well knows, James hasn't changed her position at all. She didn't like the composition of this supposedly independent panel, which was really Liberal business types exclusively (a bit like their Health boards) and she doesn't like their recommendations. And neither does David Schreck if you read his blog. I don't think James flip-flopped last time either. Rather, Farnworth flipped, and then she flipped the switch back to 'Off'.

I have said all along that I would give anything to see video of Premier Campbell's reaction when Mike de Jong told him that Farnworth had bought the package line and sinker. I'll bet the two of them were laughing so bloody hard there was urine streaming down both pant legs at the same time.

Personally, I don't think the base pay in this report, $98,000 a year, or the proposal for a $19,000 housing allowance are at all out of line. However, the other salaries for particular positions such as Cabinet Minister or Committee Chair are probably too high, and the reintroduction of a pension scheme is highly problematic.

A truly independent committee should be set up by statute to review all pay of government employees who aren't subject to collective bargaining, such as the DM/ADMs, the various appointees to boards and commissions, etc. For the MLAs, not only should there be comparisons to the House of Commons and to other provincial assemblie, but also a comparison to jobs deemed to have some comparability in the both public and private sectors. Some examples could be school principal, head nurse, detective, bank branch manager, plant superintendant, lawyer, accountant, etc.

Vaughn Palmer had a good article in the Sun today. Most of the NDP MLA's do want an increase in pay and the Liberals will essentially put a take it or leave it forever proposition on the table.

Carole James is either going to get embarrassed by her caucus or she will have pissed off her own party so much that her job will be in jeopardy. Especially when they aren't even making up ground in the polls.

Let's face it there is no good time for a politician to give themselves a raise. Whenever you do it, not matter what the increase, there will be an uproar. If James didn't fold like a cheap tent at the first sign of trouble over the 15% raise, this 30% raise wouldn't even be an issue.

I'm also sick of hearing about how nobody should get raises until welfare is increased. I have a good way to increase your welfare payments, get a job. Every single store in this city has a help wanted poster up right now. But that would be work, stupid me.

Also, how can someone say they can't work because of a disability, then be on the computer all day? That confuses me a little.

No brainer.

The NDP only has to oppose their own pay raises until the next election.

After that, they can flip flop just like Campbell.

True genious.

Ted should get a job...!

dispite the fact his doctor hired a phycholigist,
to remind Ted of the toll his body takes every day, (from nomal activities).

and as a result, the price he pays (in pain)
every night when he tries to sleep.!

-- It's the same logic
that says some how people who want to do something, to help "greater-society",

needs to be paid to do such...?

--- Ask Shawn

are the "bannor-ads" ( he runs on this web-site ),
the reason WHY he runs this website...?

-------- Ted should get a job...? ---------

dispite the fact I spend less than 20-min a day on line,

and you like my comments,

all I really lack is an offer...!

Unfortunatly, (if you read my ABOVE comments),
you can tell I'm NOT THE BRIGHEST BULB IN THE PACK. )

---- ger-main to the topic -----

Thank you for your nomination.

I'd like to become a on-line-media-dog,
but wouldn't you prefere an "ultra-alfa-wolf"
like Shawn Hollman..?

( well worth the money "WE" pay him...! ) nothing

But isn't that what WE ARE TALKING ABOUT...?

quility-qualified people,
doing something good (to better humanity)

ie: not motivated by greed
or the amounts of money they can get,
for doing so...?

------ I'm no Shawn Hollman,

however, I'm sure he feeds him-self
on the comments we make,,,

rather than T-Bone steakes.

ie: "if it wasn't for the BALONEY they surve-up
at the leg, Shawn would have nothing that's substainable." ...!

ted... (MLA's need a pay-raise like I need a new blow-hole to spew my junk)

Ps, about that "job-offer"...?

as long as you think I'm "candidate-enough",
I'm willing to take your money,,,, !

dispite the fact, I know that you'd get "BETTER-VALUE" by hirring an ABLED-BODIED candidate...!

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