wow. that's actually fairly surprising. i guess someone wasn't happy with how ms. priddy and the ndp were doing...

One more seat for the Conservatives.

She won't win. Priddy's a tough cookie and the Cadman name will only take Dona so far (which is close, but not enough). Our (Dipper) problem in this riding was complacency - a Cadman candidacy should get the hardcores out to work to protect a seat that they see as newly endangered. This is not going to be as competitive as last time, I'll bet on it.

Dona could have run in 2004 with us (conservatives) if her husband died before Dave Matta won the nomination. But, she didnt. So she backed the only candidate who could prevent a conservative from winning the riding, which was Ms. Priddy.

So fortunately, as expected, for her, Penny won, and Dona also walked over several dead bodies to her newly "acclaimed" candadicy not without any fanfare, again, as expected. So I would agree with George and say to this likely junior cabinet minister (watch out Mr. Day:)) welcome to Ottawa..=^^=..

Priddy still the favourite, unless the NdP vote completely collapses. As much as Chuck Cadman was respected and held in the highest opinion, Mrs Cadman really has done little to deserve the people's trust. She's one note - crime - and as much as Chuck had his finger on the pulse, I think the people of Whalley have moved on. She may have won a sympathy vote before, but its too late now.

The NDP will be fine in this riding. Harper Conservatives are going down like flies in BC in the next election. They just don't get the issues that BC ers care about (like the environment, for example). The last time the Tories formed government in 1984, they lost BC in 1988. British Columbians ALMOST NEVER vote for the government. Harper is going to have to look elsewhere for votes.

1. Dona co-founded CRY and once Chuck was elected, she became the primary person running that organization as well as working for free in the Consitituency Office.

2. No new MP is getting into Cabinet, that's not the way Harper works.

3. I lived in Surrey for about a year recently, the people of Whalley have not moved off the crime issue.

4.The NDP did well in 1988 because the Reform Party took crucial votes away from them, not because of a swell of support for the NDP In Saanich, where I worked that election, a Reformer took 8000 votes straight out of the PCs and Lynn Hunter won by 1800 votes. In 1993, when people figured out Reform wasn't just a fringe party, they took the riding.

Expect pickups in Sur North, Nan Alberni, Van Isle North, Southern Interior, Skeena and Richmond.

Dona is a newcomer and the only thing that is going for her into the next election is the Cadman name. But I haven't seen in the riding. With an ever increasing Indo-Canadian population in the riding of Surrey-North, watch for Penny to come on top.

"Expect pickups in Sur North, Nan Alberni, Van Isle North, Southern Interior, Skeena and Richmond."

Ford F-250 pickups or Dodge Ram pickups?

With or without gun racks?

Any chance of getting some of that stuff you've been smokin' there George S. Pringle? You've got fireworks exploding in your mind or something if you think Harpo's about to expand in BC. Most of us realize we'll be dead or swimming along Kingsway before his game plan on the environment kicks in. Let's not even start on his hapless Afghan venture where he attempted to emulate the now failed arse puckerings of one Tony Blair upon the Emperor only to have himself speckled with big gobs of stupidity that dripped off Gee W.

I don't vote in that riding however our family knows Penny quite well from her time in Women's Equality as Minister.a straight shooter who takes the time to hear the little people. Go for it Penny P.

George, under different circumstances the Conservatives might pick up one or 2 of those seats.

In order:

Nanaimo Alberni is long gone to Crowder. Period.
Van Isle North, same--NDP again.
Southern Interior, possibly, but unlikely.
Skeena, nope.
Richmond, under different times possibly, but not today.
Surrey North--Priddy's as long as she wants it.

Of note you didn't include West Van Sunshine Coast or North Van (2 which should be in play but probably aren't).

Don't see much room for improvement in BC for the Tories. The Green vote will be interesting, but probably not heavy enough to make a difference.

Nanaimo Alberni Reed Elley is coming back after beating cancer.

Richmond Alice Wong will lose the nomination and Jampolsky will beat Chan. Read the Richmond News and Richmond Review over the past six months for articles and editorials on Jampolsky and Chan.
Reid only lost this by 1800 votes and Chan has lost this seat before.

Surrey North, nope, the Cadman machine is still there and Dona's work with the community is well remembered.

ampolsky who? Granted the media is sometimes anti-Christian (just think Darrel Reid), but it by no means puts Alice Wong at a disavantage. With 60% of the Canadians still wanting to revisit SSM issues, it only confirms my belief that Alice Wong will win the nomination by a landslide, agin that is. I also expect pro-SSM Sikh MP Dhaliwal in Mr. Grewal's past riding to be voted out of the office.

As for other ridings, tories will only gain (Emerson is in danger only in theory). But I would think Ujjal Dosanj, who with Fry backed Rae's campaign will be hurt the most by the Dion win as he will no longer prove useful for his backers. Here is hoping the conservatives will find someone influential from the Chinese community to eliminate the liberas in this riding:).

"Expect pickups in Sur North, Nan Alberni, Van Isle North, Southern Interior, Skeena and Richmond."

Posted by George S. Pringle on December 22, 2006

I am just reading this on Boxing Day. It's incredible, really. But then the power of self-delusion and the tendency towards grandiose thinking is not limited to Tories. I have succumbed to it myself from time to time.

Last time, I was shocked by the losses of Ed Schreyer and Lorne Nystrom, and surpised that the NDP nationally didn't reach at least 40 seats.

For these BC seats I really don't see any trend helping the Conservatives. On the contrary, now that the Liberals are no longer in government, they have lost their most important negative marketing weapon. And with Marissen in charge of the national Liberal campaign, expect another full-court press from the Liberals all across BC next time. Expect to see fully funded Liberal candidacies even in apparently unwinnable ridings, forcing the Tories to waste time and money fighting annoying rear guard actions.

The NDP will not be operating from any particular position of organizational strength, but the national party is slowly learning the lesson that you cannot expect the Liberal vote to simply go away. You have to make a positive and credible appeal to those voters to come your way. With the right wing BC Liberals like Christy Clark and Gary Collins likely candidates next time, it will be a lot easier to portray the national Liberal party as well to the right of where working class voters, social welfare liberals, and genuine environmentalists and human rights advocates want to be. I am not refering here to the professional environmentalists who have a deal going with Elizabeth May's Green Party that is in fact a tool of the Liberal Party, but rather to actual environmental voters, people who hike, birdwatch, hunt, fish, ski, etc.

"ampolsky who? Granted the media is sometimes anti-Christian (just think Darrel Reid)"

Give it a rest FHK. Not all Christian followers agree that Darrel Reid's take on things is the way to go. He does not represent mainstream
Christian thought.

Reid is a fundamentalist, Focus on the Family and
doesn't represent 100% of those who are Christian.

and besides, religion should be kept where it belongs. At home or in the church. Not in politics.

Gone through that fundamentalist mantra before with The Crusades led by Bill VanderZalm.

"I am not refering here to the professional environmentalists who have a deal going with Elizabeth May's Green Party that is in fact a tool of the Liberal Party, but rather to actual environmental voters, people who hike, birdwatch, hunt, fish, ski, etc."

Good one Budd. The same environmentalists who use
photocopy machines rather than carbon paper or
computers and don;t use vegetable based inks, the same environmentalists who pack camping goodies in plastic containers and use nylon rip-stop tents and tarps? That use steel spikes for tent poles rather than make their own using old strong and sturdy branches?

The same environmentalists who take their bikes to the start of the trail aboard their hulkin' SUV's that have never seen a gravel road?

Not to mention having a roll of their favourite white bleached processed paper to take with them walking out of camp when it comes that time to taking a dump in the forest rather than use moss or pick really big soft leaves for the essential purpose?

"Not all Christian followers agree that Darrel Reid's blah..blah..blah.."
"Reid is a fundamentalist blah..blah..blah.."
"I dont like right-wing Christians since they are stupid blah..blah blah blah.."

Well, blue boy, I also believe religion should be left out of politics. I hope to that people like you in the left-wing media would stop making religion an issue as well.

As for Raymond Chan in the so called "shadow" cabinet given his insignificance and invisibility, one can only think what kind of "symbolic" appointment he will receive after next election.

Well, blue boy, I also believe religion should be left out of politics. I hope to that people like you in the left-wing media would stop making religion an issue as well.

Not media is left wing, and second, the media only reports what its sees. If the fundamentalists are going to push for getting their own kind elected to push their religious goals, they will most certainly be noticed, not only by the media, but by those in the political parties who don't want religious issues brought into a political environment that should focus more on economics and national issues such as health care.

I would be really offended if the church I attend kept telling me who I should vote for. It's none of their business

As for Raymond Chan in the so called "shadow" cabinet given his insignificance and invisibility, one can only think what kind of "symbolic" appointment he will receive after next election.

That is assuming that the federal Liberals win a majority.

If you don't want Chan re-elected, then get your rear in gear and volunteer for the Conservatives.

Jampolosky would make an excellent MP.

If you think that the media only reports what they see, then you are in for a surprise my boy. Since Reid is already off the map, there is no point discussing about him again. But I just leave you with this, the fairy tale about Darrel Reid being a fundamentalist is all made up by the media as he did not say one word about same sex marriage or abortion unlike Raymond Chan who continues to flip flop when such discussion comes up. As for Jampolosky, I dont like someone who is trying to paint his opponents as "Christian extremists" like you do in the nomination race as tactics such as this have been done to death, thank you very much.

If you think that the media only reports what they see, then you are in for a surprise my boy.

Not really. I've been following the media for a long time and one local paper editor is a friend of mine. Ever notice the party in government cries "media bias!" but the opposition never agrees, except when they become government?

For example. Bill VanderZalm cried media bias. The NDP did not agree. But when they became government Harcourt cried media bias.

"Since Reid is already off the map, there is no point discussing about him again."

So why did you bring him up in the first place?

"But I just leave you with this, the fairy tale about Darrel Reid being a fundamentalist is all made up by the media as he did not say one word about same sex marriage or abortion unlike Raymond Chan who continues to flip flop when such discussion comes up. "

He didn't have to as he was very much front and centre with Focus on The Family, a fundamentalist
Christian political organization. Focus on the Family isn't exactly equal to the Lions or Elks
or Kinsmen, fella.

"As for Jampolosky, I dont like someone who is trying to paint his opponents as "Christian extremists" like you do in the nomination race as tactics such as this have been done to death, thank you very much."

Well to stop that, discourage fundamentalists from running. If they still want to, keep the religious rhetoric at home, and focus on economics
and health care for British Columbians and Canadians rather than adhere to the objectives of the fundamentalists wanting to get "their kind" into positions of decision making.

People who are fundamentalists can run, but the fundamentalist movement has a narrow band of the population's support, and when they do win, the outcome is always disaster (Bill VanderZalm and Social Credit, and the fundamentalist elements within the old Reform Party).

Here's an oldie from FHK:

"With 60% of the Canadians still wanting to revisit SSM issues, it only confirms my belief that Alice Wong will win the nomination by a landslide, agin that is."

60% of what sample? Even if SSM was revisited, it could not be rescinded since it is now statuatory
law in many provinces and is now considered a legal right.

Can't rescind what is entrenched now. and no Alice Wong wouldn't make it through the nomination

If you want Chan out, get off your behind and work for Jampolsky after the nomination.

You can start with hauling out signs. The excercise will do you good.

If I could have a dollar any time the anti-Christian clan in Richmond riding association claims that Alice Wong wont win.....And I do not see any point discussing politics with someone who is innocent enough to believe in every fairy tale that the media makes up. But Harper has already defied the media influences and formed a government (with quite a few prominent Christians in his cabinet too just so you know, and yes, that includes Dr. Darrel Reid who has according to you has no intention for policy making.), who knows what's next. I will just urge you to leave religion out of this, and let Dr. Alice Wong's resume speak for herself.

"(with quite a few prominent Christians in his cabinet too just so you know, and yes, that includes Dr. Darrel Reid who has according to you has no intention for policy making.), "

Does that really mean anything FHK? prominent Christians? If you're thinking of Stockwell Day,
he knows to keep his beliefs to himself.

Sounds kind of silly, especially with this commentary made in your post:

"I will just urge you to leave religion out of this,"

Besides anyone who elects a party or the MP's within on the basis of religious convictions is an absolute fool.

Economics and other issues play a far greater and important part in the selection process in the minds of the smart voter.

that was nice camping charlie,,,

as i see the enviro
movement as nothing but an uneducated cult of losers with no chance in hell of contributing too the social problems we have.
for them, it,s throw some grass in the air and see which way yee blows,,,

when does the next gov,t grant blow in????

glenn

FHK/Warren wrote: "(with quite a few prominent Christians in his cabinet too just so you know, and yes, that includes Dr. Darrel Reid who has according to you has no intention for policy making.), "

Ah, Warren/FHK, Darrel Reid didn't win the election and thus is not a MP and thus is not in Cabinet. I know you hate letting facts get in the way of one of your rants but really ...

1. I think it was quite obvious what I was trying to say. And yes I was quite aware of the fact that Dr. Darrel Reid was a recruited government official.

2. Yes, I understand that you ave a great dislike for Dr. Alice Wong or probably just dedicated Christians. But when you start ranting once she wins the nomination next month, I sure hope you will be happy for her unlike some fo those in the riding association who should be banned for their anti-Christian (which was never an issue in the first place) hatred.

"2. Yes, I understand that you ave a great dislike for Dr. Alice Wong or probably just dedicated Christians."

Dedciated Christians? In what way? Is someone who just goes to his/her Anglican or United or Catholic Church is not a dedicated Christian, even if that person leaves her or his beliefs at home when volunteering in politics?

What makes a "dedicated Christian" different from someone who believes in Christ spiritually but does not attend Church on a regular basis??

Is a "dedicated Christian" one who would be also considered to be a fundamentalist?

Pish-posh. There are many more mainstream Christian followers who don't throw their beliefs around than there are fundamentalists who figure they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Then we have to wonder..

What if Alice Wong loses the nomination? Would you help that other fellow Howard Jampolosky in defeating Raymond Chan, should he win the nomination? If not, why?

This article started out mentioning the widow of a MP who was a law and order fellow. His own law and order party dropped him. His wife supported Penny Priddy. Now the widow wishes to run for the party that dumped her husband. So what changed? The party that dumped her husband? Or did they figure name recognition of her previous dumped husband might get them some votes?

The riding has a competent , MP, who used to be a Provincial Cabinet Minister. I rather doubt the widow will get that much support when even her now dead husband got bounced. Politics is weird but no more weird that those who get very far off the track of the storyline. Go Penny and stay as the MP for that riding. The voters in that riding will decide.

Howard "Jampolsky" or George or whoever in the anti-Reid clan has already made it clear that the "ONLY" reason conservatives lost Richmond was due to Dr Wong or Dr Reid's Christian belief/social conservative view. Howard has also even made it clearer that any social conservative candidate should not be elected to represent Richmond, before he won the nomination. Is there any tactical thinking involved or is he just plain stupid?

I must say tho that there is another candidate that I prefer to win the nomination as there are but it is certainly not Howard who seems to be confused with matters under municipal jurisdiction vs federal jurisdiction. If he continues to be delusional (as he was 6 votes away from beating Reid last year, hmm, I wonder why?), well, then I am more than sure he will be embarrassed by what's about to happen. I sure hope the "Jewish media" will treat him nice.

Howard "Jampolsky" or George or whoever in the anti-Reid clan has already made it clear that the "ONLY" reason conservatives lost Richmond was due to Dr Wong or Dr Reid's Christian belief/social conservative view.

There is truth to that, since so-called "social conservatives" are not held in high regard by the majority of the voting populace, given their propensity to focus on a narrow width of issues.
If that was the case, then there would have been a much larger acceptance of the Conservative Party and former Reform to the point of being majority government, but that hasn't happened.

"Howard has also even made it clearer that any social conservative candidate should not be elected to represent Richmond, before he won the nomination. Is there any tactical thinking involved or is he just plain stupid?"

If he means the marketed label of "social conservatives" meaning fundamentalist Christians
who want to rescind SSM, and turn back the clock on a variety of issues, then he may be correct
in many people's mind.

If he means the real social conservatives meaning
those who are fiscally conservative yet socially responsible in maintaining and building of health and social programmes for the needy, then he is very wrong.

"I sure hope the "Jewish media" will treat him nice"

Just as the BC Catholic and the fundamentalist
news media treated Darryl Reid and Alice Wong nice??

Would you help Jampolsky if he won the nomination??

If not, why?

Looks like Sean could take a good long holiday and the rabble would start up little fights to amuse themselves endlessly ....

You bad. No, YOU bad. No me bad. YOU good ... OK, we bad. Us good ... for sure, what a waste of time..

That Jewish media comment was a reference to the Reid's campaign manager who were commenting on how unfairly Darrel Reid was treated by the media, especially by the Thomson family.

As for Dr. Alice Wong being a Christian fundamentalist since she was quoting the Bible from the left to right during her campaign, oh wait, she didnt. Why again then was she considered a Christian fundamentalist?

I mean, sure Dr. Alice Wong bacekd Darrel Reid in the last nomination who, like Dr. Wong, in all fronts outshined Howard by miles. Yes, Howard only lost by 6 votes, but I guess he or John Kerry still didnt realize the number of votes they got really dont say much about them as candidates.

Not to mention the only chance Howard has aginst Dr. Wong is to paint her as scary as possible as she sure looks lovely and intelligent while Howard really does not have much to stand on against her, or likely against other candidates.

I mean, who knows, maybe with the help from the bitter losers from the previous nomination race, he has signed up enough people to make himself delusional about his chance of winning. But he has as much chance of winning the seat as Stephen Dion becoming the Prime MInister of Canada (which is 0% chance).

Howard Jampolsky? You must be kidding! He ran for an NPA nomination for Park Board and lost, then for a School Board nomination and lost thenfinally he got the message after he lost a council nomination. Rhe Reform-Alliance party is welcome to him!

Charles asked: "Why again then was she considered a Christian fundamentalist?"

1. www.theinterim.com/2000/election2000/prov/bc.html

Read the questions (link at top) and her answers for Vancouver Kingsway.

2. www.richmond-news.com/vote04/064104/el/064104el1

3. I notice now that she does not even use the term "family values" on her website. She is trying to pull another fast one.