One must wonder why the invicible Raymond always has a target in his back. I personally dont care who wins, as long as Raymond says bye bye to Ottawa:).

Who cares about this worn out "Alliance" label?

Just as long as Raymond loses his MP job.

Given a choice, I'd support Howard.

I didn't think the Conservatives allowed 2-time losers back into the fold. No doubt any candidate just a little less scary than Reid will do, but don't discount Raymond's ability to survive. Just ask Joe Pesch-o...

Whoever replaces Chan will be a better choice for the people in Richmond and community at large.

If Alice runs, I bet many Chinese voters will vote for her just to get rid of Chan.

The rule states: "the person must not have been an unsuccessful candidate in both of the two prior federal elections"

Alice lost in Kingsway in 2000 and in Richmond in 2004 but didn't run last time.

Here's a puzzle that's only doable by the most experienced pundits.

Which of these two contests is less edifying and more damaging to the chances of the political party in question? Ignoring to the degree possible the vastly different scales of these two exercises, would it be the Conservative nomination race in Richmond, or the national Liberal Leadership Non-race? And still overlooking the obvious differences in the size of the audience, which one has the greatest potential to persuade voters that it's just more of the same old, same old for the party involved?

"The rule states: "the person must not have been an unsuccessful candidate in both of the two prior federal elections"

Alice lost in Kingsway in 2000 and in Richmond in 2004 but didn't run last time."

So this means she can run simply because the 2005
and 2004 elections are what are counted.

She ran only once for the Conservatives.

Her loss as an Alliance candidate would not disqualify her for running for the Conservatives.

"Here's a puzzle that's only doable by the most experienced pundits.

Which of these two contests is less edifying and more damaging to the chances of the political party in question? Ignoring to the degree possible the vastly different scales of these two exercises, would it be the Conservative nomination race in Richmond, or the national Liberal Leadership Non-race? And still overlooking the obvious differences in the size of the audience, which one has the greatest potential to persuade voters that it's just more of the same old, same old for the party involved?"

Too wordy. You're also comparing a National Leadership race with a nomination run in a local riding.

You also didn't factor in the NDP which also has to have local nominations, and any one here will bet a pair of good Cancuks tickets that at least more than one who ran in 2005 for the NDP will run for the NDP again next year.

The NDP isn't immune from "same old same old".

Budd, at least admit that the "same old, same old" is not a phenomenon exclusive to the Tory and Grit galaxies. I wholeheartedly agree with Sam Spade.

The NDP are as bad, if not worse. Policies that can't work, tired bylines, and a guaranteed election-time latherfest of platform reruns, the NDP will never be able to present a viable alternative to any government, so long as she is so joyfully in bed with the most extremist of her lobby: enviroNazis, union lackeys, ultra dogma-driven Che-loving( read: admiration for a murderous thug) students, tofu-turkey eating anti-nuke militants, and the like.

How many protest marches has Jack Lay-down and Carole dimwit attended where the message is spiked with the undercurrent of violence? Almost every one of them, including the free-dope obliviots, most particularly the anit-war crowd, the message is the same: RISE UP and attack, fuel your words with epithets and personal invective against Gordo the Magnificent or the contrived target of the day and whip up the crowd into a frenzy. Oh, I forgot, John Lennon's "Imagine" factors in there somewhere during the epilouge...what a joke.

Face it, if the NDP were made up of more Bill Tieleman's, Farnworths and less extremists like Gregor Robertson's, you might make the political radar screen, maybe.....

A little nomination history according to the Richmond News.

In 2004, about 550 members voted in race with 4 nominees and Alice won with about 350.

In 2006, about 500 members voted on the final ballot in a race with six nominees and Darrel Reid won 240-234 over Howard Jampolsky.

Now with about a week to ago before a meeting is announced there are three nominees, one who hasn't really announced, one who doesn't qualify and is seeking a waiver and Howard.

One of these people has been out in the community selling memberships to run against Darrel instead of jumping in after Darrel went to Ottawa.

Budd, I don't think you'll see "same old same old" after the nomination meeting in November.

Chan would do whatever it takes to keep his job. I would be really suprised that Chan would not do something below the belt again.

Anybody from HK who knows Chan's history would agree with me. You simply do not see pople helping him out after an election or two...

Loh deserves the penalty, but Chan deserves it more. That's why Alice Wong should come into play ASAP. With the base she had last time around, she has a very good chance this time...people should simply be alert of what cheap move Chan will make next...