Beauty won't tackle beastly job

This will be a disappointment for some: former provincial Green Okanagan-Westside candidate Angela Reid is ruling out a run to succeed outgoing party leader Adriane Carr. In an interview with Public Eye, Ms. Reid - the principal of smart growth business development firm Tigress Ventures - explained "I still have a lot to learn. I'm 28 years old." Although she did add, "I am interested in working as the deputy leader in the interim or after a new leader is elected." Ms. Reid is seen as one of the party's up-and-comers, with a resume that includes helping startup Morningstar Enterprises Inc. - one of the country's leading environmental and social marketing firms - and a stint as Miss Kelowna, Lady of the Lake.

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The Morningstar website features endorsements of sorts from Alberta Premier Ralph Klein, and Okanagan Liberal MLAs Hawkins and Weisbeck. Not exactly Greens!

Actually, Budd, I think you misunderstand who the Greens are these days.

They are becoming more and more Conservative and even less environmentally sound than some of the other parties on both the Federal and provincial stage. The past few elections have demonstrated that.

Perhaps Klein fits right in!

True. Green Party is NEVER about business enterprise, it is about environmental communism.

FHK, that certainly wasn't what I was saying, and I think the Federal Green position of Voluntary Compliance by business would suggest Business Enterprise over Environmental communism any day.

Im not sure whether you were being sarcastic or not, but if your opinion is as stated, their policy books would suggest otherwise. In fact far to the opposite in my opinion. They aren't the 'Greenest" party.

Outside of electoral reform, they are quite conservative, and for the most part farther right on the political spectrum than the vast majority of their voters believe.

Fed Libs, Fed NDP and Provincial NDP are greener, these days, nevermind much more electable. Keep in mind, though, electing more than zero isn't hard to do. Independants win more seats. There's food for thought for potential Green candidates.

Quizz question: BC has already done the Kelowna Beauty Queen, right? Can you think of her name?

She was a Socred Cabinet Minister and when a small BCAir float plane sank in the Inner Harbour, she escaped by walking on a guy's back, getting off first. "It was sheer instinct," she said.

Good, eh? Sheer instinct, me first. Me win, you lose. Such a rarity in B.C. politics, surely somebody remembers her name?

Would that be the one, the only, ... Patricia Jordan? But she was from Vernon, not Kelowna.

If this person was in Cabinet and from the Okangan area, that had to be Pat Jordan.

She was the only woman cabinet Minister from that area during the Socreds time.

She also had the distinction of making her male Ministerial Assistant carry her purse.

Working for her was the last thing any would be
M.A. would want, from what the story was.

Bill and FHK – it’s time for you to let go of the past, and join the only global political movement with any hope of implementing the kind of change we need to see in this world. Just Watch the Green Party Surpass the NDP

The Green Party is the only party that spells Green with a capital "G". The recent greenwashing of the old parties only shows how large the inroads the Greens are making into new voter pools – in the next election the Greens will probably surpass the NDP in Quebec and Alberta – provinces they can never hope at doing well in. The last major Decima Poll had the Greens at 10% nationally, the NDP at 14%.

Coming from the NDP, claims that the Greens are fiscally-conservative are a complement. Well, conserve we must. We should not borrow our children’s money on lavish consumer spending, just as we shouldn’t spend our children’s environmental inheritance. Voters only have to look to the NDP’s terms in BC and Ontario to conclude Canada cannot afford them as government. Canada will never see an NDP Prime Minister because of their caveman economics and willingness to abandon their values at the fist sign of political gain.

The conjecture that the NDP shares our goals of social justice and the environment are not born-out in reality. Jack Layton never once mentioned the environment in four leaders’ debates. Fish farming and raw logging exports increased drastically during the NDP tenure. And let’s not forget that welfare was cut by Clark (not Campbell) and Clayoquot Sound (the largest mass arrests in Canadian History) happened under Harcourt.

Only Greens have the holistic philosophy required today, enshrined in the Global Green Charter. The Green Party is an international movement that is the human species’ response to its worsening environment. Without the European Greens, Kyoto never would have been signed and Europe might have joined Bush in Iraq. This internationalism uniquely positions the Greens to deal with global concerns such as climate change, corporate globalization and peace.

Ariel Lade
Green Party Candidate of Record

The Green Party is the only party that spells Green with a capital "G".

– in the next election the Greens will probably surpass the NDP in Quebec and Alberta – provinces they can never hope at doing well in. The last major Decima Poll had the Greens at 10% nationally, the NDP at 14%.

Coming from the NDP, claims that the Greens are fiscally-conservative are a complement. ... Voters only have to look to the NDP’s terms in BC and Ontario to conclude Canada cannot afford them as government.

... Jack Layton never once mentioned the environment in four leaders’ debates. Fish farming and raw logging exports increased drastically during the NDP tenure. And let’s not forget that welfare was cut by Clark (not Campbell) and Clayoquot Sound (the largest mass arrests in Canadian History) happened under Harcourt.

Ariel Lade
Green Party Candidate of Record

Posted by Ariel Lade on October 5, 2006


Ariel, I have done my best to reduce your post to its essential lies, leaving out the more superfluous fluff. In order:

The Greens do not have any claim on the best environmental platform. The NDP was recognized by the Sierra Club in the 2004 federal election as having the best environmental platform. In the 2006 election this honour was taken by the Greens, but by a narrow margin. Perhaps you can explain better than I what changes the Greens had to make in order to raise their score?

I haven't seen the Decima poll you refer to, but you must surely realize that the figures you quote are pure fantasy. In the last federal general election the NDP received over a quarter of a million votes in Quebec, and with its recent convention there can expect further improvements. In Alberta the party has four seats in the provincial legislature. In both Alberta and Quebec the failing Liberal Party will be releasing votes that will naturally flow to a party whose roots combine labour activists, environmentalalists, and social democrats and genuine liberals.

You repeat the business page lies about the NDP's fiscal records in Ontario and BC. How do you plan to finesse these claims if Bob Rae becomes Liberal leader, and you're told by some of the mainstream media's many Liberalish pundits that his record as Premier has been officially re-evaluated and it's now been discovered that his government did just fine fiscally?

Jack Layton may not have "mentioned" the environment during the leader's TV debate, (perhaps because it wasn’t one of the assigned topics?) but any suggestion that such fakers and pure political windbags as Jim Harris or Adrienne Carr have better environmental records that Layton is pure invention. As a Toronto councillor he pushed everything from wind power, now installed at least at a demo project, to re-cycling, public transit and other green policies. The NDP Govt in BC put a moratorium on fin fish farms, as you well know. Your statement that welfare was cut by Clark is clever and intentionally deceptive. Monthly welfare rates were reduced and eligibility was restricted for basic income support. But in-work benefits for the working poor were put in place for the first time in Canadian history. The fact that you and other so-called advocates for the poor, including some of the recognized ones like SPARC, constantly refuse to acknowledge the pioneering steps that were involved in BC Benefits, extending real support to those at work, speaks volumes about your degree of sincerity.

Your statements about arrests during demonstrations at Clayoquot Sound are perfectly silly and you know it. People were arrested because they had violated court injunctions, a criminal matter. They were advised by lawyers and obviously wanted to be arrested for political reasons. The government of the day did not order their arrests, as you well know. Silly-bugger faux environmentalists who hold this against Harcourt are not doing the environment any favours. They forget that one of his government’s first actions, with John Cashore as Minister, was to put in place the highest standards in the country governing effluent water from pulp mills. The powerful forest industry had to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on pollution abatement equipment to meet those standards, and was understandably furious about it. That’s one of the reasons why the NDP Govt faced such a hostile press, that and bitterness among the reporters that they didn’t’ get their share of the patronage, and that’s why the lies you repeat in your post can all be “sourced” to this day in the popular press, whose managers take quite a bit of direction from forest industry heavyweights. No Green Party politician would have had the courage to take on big business to that degree. Only a party like the NDP with roots in organized labour, people who are used to taking on the biggest of big business interests on a daily basis, would have the nerve for such a conflict.

Have a nice time Ariel. I hope that you and other Green fakers do a good job of siphoning off some Tory votes from Harper in the next election. As for your standards of intellectual honesty, I really hope you can get some professional help on that one, because I am afraid you might start believing some of your propaganda, in which case people will begin to see you as nothing more than a political yahoo. You wouldn’t want that, would you?


It'd be hateful (to me) if Budd Campbell began to think I'm a political yahoo ...

but I have been fantasizing about an alliance between the NDP and the Greens ... to be called the Red-Green Party.

So Canadian, eh. We could stroll around Victoria, snapping our Red Green suspenders, making like idiots savant, fooling nobody, as usual.

And as Red Green always said, Even if nobody thinks we're attractive, they can at least think we're handy.

Budd:

It is just amazing the revision of history you need to do so you can sleep at night supporting the NDP.

So you think the fast-ferries and propping-up of Skeena cellulose was good economic policy? Why were we paying to log trees at a loss? Please explain to me how that is good economic and environmental policy.

The political parties set the rules of the federal debates with the media, so Layton has no excuse for never talking about the environment – nice try.

Layton brought down the Martin government and handed the government to Harper all for a couple seats and a chance at being king-maker… well, Jack, you rolled the dice on Canada and came up snake-eyes, thanks a lot! He never once explained to Canadians what a Conservative government would mean to Canada, instead he attacked the Liberals and sang from the Conservative playbook – all to win a handful of seats. In the process, he single-handedly destroyed our national childcare program. Please explain how that helps the poor, I need some help with that one.

The NDP Gov’t in BC may have put a moratorium on fish farms, but they allowed the current farms to more than double in size – how stupid do you think voters are? So you admit monthly welfare rates were reduced and eligibility was restricted for basic income support – big of you to admit the facts! But now explain to us how is this achieves social justice goals again? I didn't quite follow your logic.

Raw log exports increased by something like 15-20 times under the NDP – please revise history again so my little feeble little mind can understand how this is good for BC workers and the environment. Since I am not an NDPer, I need some help revising (I mean understanding) history.

~Ariel.


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