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"No Leadership Contestant shall incur Leadership Campaign Expenses directly or indirectly for the purpose of facilitating in any manner whatsoever...the presence of any member of the Party at a delegate selection meeting" - including transportation costs. So sayeth federal Liberal party regulations. Which makes one wonders why a bus - whose windshield featured a red and white placard bearing Kennedy British Columbia campaign co-chair Raymond Chan's name - was seen shuttling people to the Richmond selection meeting? Well, according to an insider close to Mr. Chan, the Richmond MP didn't know about the regulation. But he's "been made aware of that oversight. And it won't happen again." Although the insider was quick to point out Gerard Kennedy's competitors have made similar mistakes in other provinces. In fact, national returning officer Remi Bujold sent an email to senior campaign operatives last night notifying them that such allegations would be investigated by the party's expense committee. The following is a complete copy of that email.

----- Original Message -----
From: Remi Bujold
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 7:02 PM
Subject: Prohibited Expenditures

Dear All,

As National Returning Officer, according to Rule 2.1 of the Rules of Procedure for the Election of Delegates to the 2006 Leadership and Biennial Convention (the "Rule”), we are responsible for all aspects of the process of electing delegates under these Rules in each province and territory in the country.

According to section 5 (a) of the Regulations Governing Expenses of Contestants fro the Leadership of the LPC (the "Regulations”), it is clear that no transportation, accommodations or others cost can be provided in order to insure the presence of any member of the party at a delegate selection meeting.

According to section 16 of these Regulations, the sanctions with regards to the foregoing are the following:

a) issue a private reprimand;

b) issue a public reprimand;

c) impose a fine on the Leadership Contestant in an amount not to exceed $100,000; or

d) disqualify the Leadership Contestant.

It was brought to our attention that some alleged prohibited expenditures could have been incurred and associated to some Campaigns.

We would like to remind you that the Regulations must be respected by everyone, and therefore, we hereby recommend to the Expense Committee to take the appropriate measures to investigate on the foregoing allegations.

Kind regards,

Rémi Bujold, NRO

19 Comments

Wow! And Chan still lost his own riding.

So what's going to happen to all the other campaigns that rolled up supporters en masse? I know Ignatieff's campaign was very busy delivering voters to both Coquitlam and Delta...

...nothing like a morning transportation hubbub to get on drivers' nerves.

Does driving someone to a voting station count as an election campaign expense? What if you are driving your mother? What if the campaign is not paying for the trip? How many personal drives to the voting station turns the effort into a campaign expense? I dunno!

Disclaimer: I'm not a Liberal member and didn't drive anyone... just so you know... I am really just wondering but not too interested in reading the libs own internal EA rules on yet another expense question.... but kept the fumming going!

I am not a liberal (neither will I ever be one), but I thinking signing up dead people (been there done that by Side-show Bob) or driving people to vote is wrong. But we all know how LPC operates, so it probably isnt too odd I suppose.

Maybe we should be careful as we slag the Liberals as they are getting their members out to vote. Steve Boy won't around much longer so we will all watch to see what his hardworking folks will be doing. If any candidate figures hauling some one to the polls will influence the results, one wonders just how easy the voters can directed

Apparently the Rae team used buses in newfoundland yesterday. he probably could have used them more in Ontario where it seems Liberals remember his troubling reign as Premier.

Does driving someone to a voting station count as an election campaign expense? What if you are driving your mother? What if the campaign is not paying for the trip? How many personal drives to the voting station turns the effort into a campaign expense? I dunno!

Obvously not. With someone who seems to be intellectual you're sure not up to the basics.

The driving of people to polls is usually done by volunteers with NO expenses expected to be
returned.

In Chan's/Ricmond's case it would be doubtful it would be the same, since how many private citizens whoa re federal Liberals in Richmond would have a large bus to their own name, so said bus was obviusly charted either directly or indirectly. Needs to be reported as per their
rules.

Disclaimer: I'm not a Liberal member and didn't drive anyone... just so you know... I am really just wondering but not too interested in reading the libs own internal EA rules on yet another expense question.... but kept the fumming going

Further Diclaimer: The federal liberals are with limited warranty. May not be exactly as pictured and product is subject to availability.

Some assembly required.

Batteries not included.

See in store for details.

FHK writes: "I thinking signing up dead people (been there done that by Side-show Bob) or driving people to vote is wrong."

Eugene Parks responds: Signing up dead people is done by third-parties to embarrass; it's a manufactured scandel... since the signups are of no value as one needs to show up with ID to vote.

As for driving people to vote, I'm not sure why libs have a prob with this. What's their issue? Really? With these partisan events, you already know how the person is going to vote and that is why you are driving them. Right? Maybe the rule is just about not allowing campaigns to spend money or disperse money for this activity... the Libs appear to want driving others to vote to be a volunteer effort.

As for driving people to vote, I'm not sure why libs have a prob with this. What's their issue? Really? With these partisan events, you already know how the person is going to vote and that is why you are driving them. Right? Maybe the rule is just about not allowing campaigns to spend money or disperse money for this activity... the Libs appear to want driving others to vote to be a volunteer effort

Euguene you still aren't thinkin'. Obvously drowning in smart intellect and not in practical terms.

Volunteers do use their own vehicles (free time and resources) to drive supporters to the polls.
That's been done since your uncle drive supporters to the polls in his Studebaker.

Where it gets messy if somehow a 20 or 45 passenger bus shows up and some idiot on the campaign tries to pass that off as being "hey, the driver's a volunteer of ours. he donating his talent and time for us". The bus obviously was chartered and that's the problem. It becomes a declared expense, even if it is "in kind" donations.

Could get messy if the bus wasn't documented.

I mean how many people have a registered and licensed 40 passenger highway bus in the backyard
that can be fired up and used for the day to
"bus in the delegates" and say to the campaign
"hey we can use my bus! I've got a month left
on the registration before I put her away for the winter!"

Signing up dead people shows the intellegence of the campaigns. Don't why camapigns still do it since it's been done before and everytime the campaign gets caught. It's very disrespectful.

In the federal Liberal scheme of things, yes you know how a person is going to vote.

In ordinary elections, it's only 95% to 99% certain you know your passenger is going to vote for your guy or gal.

No one knows how the passenger actually voted once the person gets into the voting compartment.

I've actually got a free ride to the poll by a candidate who kept pestering me for his support. That was nice. I took him up on the offer.

But I didn't vote for the sod because of some idiotic thing he did during the campaign.

Grit Guy writes, "Euguene you still aren't thinkin'. Obvously drowning in smart intellect and not in practical terms. "

Eugene Parks repsonds: On this one I just don't really care... fume on!


"Grit Guy writes, "Euguene you still aren't thinkin'. Obvously drowning in smart intellect and not in practical terms. "

Eugene Parks repsonds: On this one I just don't really care... fume on!"

Dioens't bother me in the slightest. I just enjoy the comedy of errors.

But in thinkin' of the headline for this item..

I'd much rather enjoy the deep resonating sound of a well tuned diesel engine, than the claketty-clak of the clucking that is going on with this joke of a leadership race.

In fact the sweet smell of diesel is a bit better
than the nauseating smell of the food at poorly catered meet and greets.

This whole race is a joke. No Frank McKenna. No John Manley even!

And no universal ballot of all members.

And a $1,000 registration fee.

I could go on, but it's obvious that the Liberals are tying to just tread water here, a valid enough strategy given the circumstances. But the execution of that strategy is not going according to plan, and the party is sinking deeper and deeper. All that's needed now is a rancorous, bitter convention to finish the job.

1.) I don't have a problem with campaigns renting busses on the whole.

2.) However the rules say you cant.

3.) So it is REALLY UNFAIR for one campaign to use them and the others not.

4.) For Chan to use them, and then say he wont again is useless. The damage is already done and the votes are already counted in those ridings.

5.) Kennedy should get a slap on the wrist. (and Rae too if the newfoundland story is true)

I used to go around to industrial facilities. To be allowed to walk freely through dangerous environments I had to take safety training. In one facility I had to read aloud the entire safety policy mannual to a facilty witness and initial each section - proving I read and knew the rules.

Would it be appropriate for candiates (in this case that would include delegates too) to require they read and sign they know the rules before they are allowed to "walk around freely" in the "dangerous environment" of being a representative?

Why would anyone be surprised about anything underhanded being practised by the Liberal Party? So they sign up dead people and transport the live ones to selection meetings and the head shed is going to investigate. Isn't that kind of closing the door behind whomever gets selected? Won't it be all over by the time the "investigation" is complete? That would certainly be in line with the way the Liberals operate.

Goodness, this is nitpicky. One of Kennedy's supporters got caught doing something that every camp was doing, and it's a big deal? At my station in particular, I saw Iggy people passing out flyers next to the door, Rae people working the crowd mere metres from the ballot boxes, and now giving rides to the stations is a big deal? Wow.

Danny Williams wrotes, "Goodness, this is nitpicky.... people working the crowd mere metres from the ballot boxes, and now giving rides to the stations is a big deal? "

Eugene Parks responds... sigh yes.

But I can top your story: I once attended a vote where a team stood *behind* people who were voting after giving them popcorn 3 inches away

... fume on!

When it's time to replace Stevie boy, it'll be one member - one vote of all the membership. That's the only fair way. Unlike the Libs who select delegates to do their voting (and, by extension, thinking) for them.

Eugene: was there any beer with that popcorn?

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