I like how you include the spelling error when you state the number of people at the meeting, Sean. It's what makes you a real journalist. Not like all those others who have to sink to being PAID for their writing.

Keep up the good work!

Good to hear Iggy is back on the continent, rumour has it the ivy leaguer was in Europe for the past week. By the way has anyone noticed that the International Relations expert has yet to issue a statement on the current crisis in the middle east?

Sure hope the Liberals can get their leader, no matter who it will be, in place soon. Steven Harper scares hell out of me. Canadians don't cut and run says Steven but Canadians shouldn't be signing on to be a buffer zone in Lebanon.

Weird as Canada has made a name for ourselves as peace keepers for eons. Oh, silly me, the guy who started the idea of peace keepers was a Liberal not a warmed over Reformer/ Alliance/ New Conservative Bush and therefore a supporter of Isreal no matter how many kids they kill.

Well, isn't it nice to see the SS Iggy leaking like a sieve?

Better make your way to the life boats girls and boys.

i'm hurt! i'm a current member of the vancouver island north riding association executive and wasn't invited.... show's how much respect his people have for those from other campaigns...

"and therefore a supporter of Isreal no matter how many kids they kill."

Yeah right and how many kids has Hezbollah and
Hamas killed, dufus?

Israeli arnaments hitting towns and villages with
kids being casulties is bad enough, but think back a bit...

If Hezbollah had just handed off those two Israeli soldiers back to the IDF, there wouldn't have been the mass destruction in the first place.

Ever think of that?

Jeez Seymour - it's okay for Israel to kill children because the bad guys do too? Are you a maniac? Give your head a shake.

"Jeez Seymour - it's okay for Israel to kill children because the bad guys do too? Are you a maniac? Give your head a shake."

Why don't you give your head a shake. I never said it was okay for Israel to kill kids because the bad guys do too.

What I said was if Hezbollah had firstly returned the Israeli soldiers to the IDF, none of this nonsense would have started.

In other words, Hezbollah should have returned those soldiers immediately. As in right now.

Israel has been very very wrong to bomb the villages and injure kids, but Hezbollah and particularly Hamas are just as bad.

Neither are exactly good guys.

But Israel isn't exactly playing good in the sand either.

The only maniacs around here are those who are sympathetic to Hezbollah and Hamas.

Why the defence for Hezbollah and their supporters?

Seymour, you're so biased you can't even see it.

"I never said it was okay for Israel to kill kids because the bad guys do too." - That's true. You just make up excuses for them.

"In other words, Hezbollah should have returned those soldiers immediately. As in right now." - No, they shouldn't have captured the enemy soldiers in the first place.

"Why the defence for Hezbollah and their supporters?" - Again, give your freaking head a shake. Where am I defending Hezbollah and their supporters? I consistently say it's wrong to kill kids. You make excuses for it. Why the excuses for child killers? Is Clifford Olsen next on your list?

To Oh Logic:

Your freaking out.

You have not said anything in regards to Hezbollah's sending missles into Israel which have also killed citzens including kids.

Hezbollah has used children and families as
pawns in this conflict and point to Israel and say "The Israelis kill the children of Lebanon".

As for capturing the soldiers in the first place they should not have but this is a militant Islamic group that doesn't want reason.

Clifford Olsen in my opinion should have been denied the right for two year parole reviews but the federal Liberals wimped out and provided
that to him.

I'll be glad to see the Conservatives revoke the
review of parole every two years for scum like him and even better for multiple murders, make the sentences consective, rather than the concurrent ones.

As for killing children, you have repeatedly mentioned that the Israelis have done that, but you haven't said Hezbollah is doing the same thing to Israeli children.

and why no criticism of Hezbollah's tactics such as firing missles into Israeli territory such as to Hai'fa?

Does this mean Iggy will come out of hiding on the Lebanon issue?

Interesting comments about the Liberal leadership race last evening, on Voice of BC. "Iggy" no way ,for a number of reasons, so who? The far right guy Spector says Bob Rae, even though he was bloodied in Ontario but has since done good things and for his international work and it would hurt the NDP. Norman Ruff figured Rae has too much baggage. Neither figured Iggy had a chance. Even considered Dion but his english is worse than Cretien was in either language. When stacked up against Emmerson, (I walk the floor) Stockman Day, (of seadoo fame, and believer of dinosaurs and man co- existing) or Peter McKay( don't leave me Belinda) , or The law and order, guy (throw them all in the slammer and of course Steven Harper( george, sir, which boots do you want me to lick)I figure any of the Liberal guys topping the list would do us a favour by taking on the Conservative gang.

Speaking of invitations, I bet you none of Iggy's people got invited to Marky Mark's birthday party.

i am sure iggy-ite Jatinder Rai would have been invited to MarkyMark's fortieth. he wouldnt leave any "camp" out.

Seems the Iraeli air force just bomber another enclave of terrorists killing a large number of sleeping kids. Oh well, collateral damage. Besides it is probrably the parents fault for not having the kids in a bunker, but even if it had UN markings on the village, they would get bombed anyway. Why? well becasue they can as a number of really big guys don't seem to notice, and some litle guys who want to appear big, go right long with the deal.
I too would like to see some words, either side of the issue from the rest of the Liberal leadership hopefuls. We already know where the PM hanging his hat. He wants to be a big guy so badly it's getting apinful to watch him.
Let's face it, whomever wins the Liberal leadership position will soon after become PM

"Seems the Iraeli air force just bomber another enclave of terrorists killing a large number of sleeping kids. Oh well, collateral damage. "

Amazing that Hezbollah puts their missle launchers in heavily populated areas even though
they know those missle launchers are considered
primary targets by the IDF.

"Besides it is probrably the parents fault for not having the kids in a bunker, but even if it had UN markings on the village, they would get bombed anyway. Why? well becasue they can as a number of really big guys don't seem to notice, and some litle guys who want to appear big, go right long with the deal."

No mention of Hezbollah having missles nearby?

"I too would like to see some words, either side of the issue from the rest of the Liberal leadership hopefuls. We already know where the PM hanging his hat. He wants to be a big guy so badly it's getting apinful to watch him."

Just as it was painful to watch Chretien.

Chretien wanted to be Captain Canada so badly
it was nauseating to watch him, and for the
Liberals back then to say they were "Canada's
Party".

Let's face it, whomever wins the Liberal leadership position will soon after become PM

Not exactly guaranteed. Need the right mix
of leadership and policy content. Not repeating
the policy and party direction of past leaders.

If the Liberals don't win government, then what will you do? Find another leader?

I hear that Iggy bailed on his whole BC visit.

You seem to believe what I wrote was just plain wrong, except for the part about policy and direction. Direction is a interesting thing considering what we have now. A very minority government that seems hell bent on looking good for some country not ours. After a fairly long time in Canada's military I got out of the idea about bombing hell out of people, especially kids, old men and women.

There was no civil war in Lebanon, as there presently is in Iraq. And afer a lot of killing, that doesn't seem to be getting ready to end real soon. Our troops went to Afghanistan to do rebulding and ended up trying to sort out a mess started by the good buddies of our present PM. We have the body bags to prove it, and even then Harper tried to distance himself and of course the media from observing the coffins coming back, I guess he wasn't aware the highway passes withing a few feet of the hangers in Trenton. So he couldn't keep the media at bay no matter how he tried, Goerge Bush did the same as their dead ones were coming back from Iraq, and continue to come back on a very regular basis.

You might notice that neither Iraq or Afghanistan seems about to be resolved either, anytime soon either. Once you pick a side to support, especially in haste, your use of buffer zone folks goes down the toilet. I won't be looking for a different leader for the Liberals, if they fail to form a majority, but even a stronger minority would be OK with me. I don't support them either. So what about a cease fire in lebanon? The Iraeli's havn't stopped bombing beyond the duration of 48 hours and I doubt most folks don't believe that idea either. It's a great place to sell big bombs and other equipment The stupidest thing I've hear over this whole mess was some appologist telling us the last bunker busting bombs were just some lower rank guys being a bit rambuncious. What a load of carp. Nobody i any military does things like that. I do look forward to the next federal election and Harper's going somewhere else. The Conseravtive track record hasn't been that good, going back as far as Dief the Chief who ended up with us having nuclear weapons, and he was too dumb to even know he had signed the deal. That deal was against the recommendations of the senior military staff in case you were wondering.

Ignatieff is coming back through BC focussing specifically on indo canadian voters- a fairly good strategy given the politics in this province. He knows the Indos vote on block, are largely undecided- so he uses this immigration policy thing to bring them in.

The thing is, they failed to get many of these people signed up before the cutoff, and many prominent members of the indo community are outraged that they were not given the heads up.

OOPS

These engagements have all now been cancelled.