Barinder Sal organized quite a crowd.

Also in attendance was Parm Bains. He of the Mike De Jong radio program public eye fame.

Tony Singh of Fruiticana, a powerful businessman and Punjabi Market president Daljit Sidhu were on hand.

Top Realtors Gurdev Sandhu and Jagmohan Singh along with Realtors Amar Randhawa and Sonny Dhillon were at this breakfast.

Pioneer Indo's Jack Uppal and Ab Berar were in attendance.

All the temple leaders were present.

It doesn't matter who came and who didn't, The liberals are a joke in Surrey, and thats all that matters.

Prem "Peter" Vinning promised the Premier Surrey and he didn't deliver, thats all that matters.

Forget about Barinder Sal, he is old news

The new power broker is Parm Bains, this guy is the face of the government in the South Asian community, he is the heir apparent to take the crown of Indo Leader!

I was just notified my name popped up here. I am not a power broker nor do I claim to be. Liberal party has a lot of work to do with all communities - I don't understand why a simple meeting with the community causes such concern.

Please don't use my name in any of these conversations.

Thank you, Parm

What a brain, I guess he really wants a lot more media coverage cuz that's what he'll get by trying to order the media not to cover him.

Oh, Parm Bains, Parm Bains, Parm Bains, etc etc

Mr. Parm Bains, you sure are a brave man, asking not to be mentioned in a public blog is just not possible. Keep it up lad, Libs need a man who can deliver and not just talk.

Wow that was fast, 20 minutes after a message was posted, Parm is on the board commenting about it.

I wonder if "joe" and Parm are the same person. That sounds like something that the Liberals would do, post a comment and then dispute it in order to generate controversy and attention :-)

How did TDH end up there?

"Prem "Peter" Vinning promised the Premier Surrey and he didn't deliver, thats all that matters."

Do you guys actually belive in that junk? That one individual can actually "deliver" Surrey to the Premier?

What is with these so-called power sauce people?

If you want to win a riding you have to work it.
Plain and simple. If the voters don't want a Liberal in their riding, they'll decide that, not some screwed up person who figures he can earn points with the Premier.

Something that should be noted about the list of attendee:

Randeep Sarai - A lawyer, not presently allowed to practice law, I wonder why?

Prem Vinning - "the economy is going great guns" Peter. No explanation needed

Bob Hans - Lost badly in Surrey,has no political connections or base

Rob Nijjar - Does not know 10 people in the community.

I also heard that Wally got earful from the group for not doing enough in the East Indian community...they want more appointments to boards, more money for East Indian organizations, more advertising dollars for Indian media etc,etc

I also heard that there were lot of negative things said about Wally, the Premier and the Government. Most of the folks in the community are really pissed off with the Liberals.

All of the attendees are just trying to be like Prem "peter" Vinning - the godfather of the community.

Any bet that will be the last breakfast organized by Barinder for Wally?

Just heard that Jonathan Ross from TDH is on his way to Victoria as maybe Wally Oppal's other Ministerial Assistant. Seems that he was at the breakfast and was listening and keeping a low profile and he left with Oppal.

"Just heard that Jonathan Ross from TDH is on his way to Victoria as maybe Wally Oppal's other Ministerial Assistant."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

Why was Terry lalari not present?

Wally was also grilled on the lack of outreach from his staff, Mr. Lalari are you listening

BC Politics 101, Sid.

You say: "If you want to win a riding you have to work it. Plain and simple. If the voters don't want a Liberal in their riding, they'll decide that, not some screwed up person who figures he can earn points with the Premier."

Cryin' out loud, Sid, ya never heard of Block Voting?

Politics 204, Pie:

Cryin' out loud, Sid, ya never heard of Block Voting?

Block voting is when the candidate actually goes out and solicits for votes within a block of a neighbourhood.

Block voting in terms of getting ethnic communities to vote Liberal or NDP is crap.

All that does is earn worthless people such as Prem Vinning imaginary power points.

Also interesting the comment:

"I also heard that Wally got earful from the group for not doing enough in the East Indian community...they want more appointments to boards, more money for East Indian organizations, more advertising dollars for Indian media etc,etc"

What a stupid train of thought. So why the East Indian organisations and not overall community organisations?

Why should the East Indian community be first in for board appointments?

People who want to be on boards can compete for them just like everyone else.

Opportunity for all, special privileges for none.

What does Parm Bains do for the libs

Is he a big powerbroker?

The indo canadian community's political influence is near its end. The new fed lib membership rules (look for similar rules provincially before the Coleman's cornation ;) and the standing tory rules make bloc sign ups a thing of the past. We might be on the cusp of an era where the quality of candidate actually matters!!!!

Earth to Terry Lalari, Rishi Sharma, you guys are clearly losing the Indo community

Wake up boys, make your paycheque worth something, poor gordo has to depend on you boys

Work hard and party less!

it doesn't matter what community it is, the whole party has to work harder
As is evident by comments of "parm Bains" above, the liberals have to work harder in all communities

The bloc voting days are officially over, people vote independently

Dr.Gulzar Cheema was right when he said famously after the Panorama by election lost, that the party has lost touch with the community

They "liberals" should focus more on grassroots organizing, that is the real achilles heal of the party

Mr.Kelly Reichert should start organizing a team, these Leg staffers are not capable of this task

Dr.Gulzar Cheema was right when he said famously after the Panorama by election lost, that the party has lost touch with the community

"They "liberals" should focus more on grassroots organizing, that is the real achilles heal of the party

Mr.Kelly Reichert should start organizing a team, these Leg staffers are not capable of this task"

Kelly Reichardt would best leave the BC Liberals he's been Executive Director for 10 years and it's time for someone new. The BC Liberal headquarters staff are abysmal when it comes to providing constituency support and encouragement for volunteer involvement.

Kelly's never had much of a real job. He's a long time political hack who goes back to 1985.

Wally, oh Wally, i guess the libs thought he would be the saviour.

What about Dave Hayre, he should be the lead Indo guy

regarding certain staffers, whether it is Terry Lalari, Rishi Sharma or this new mover and shaker Parm Bains,these guys are just young staffers. They are not people with any infleunce or positining in the community, especially if they sit in the Rockpile.

The liberals are not gonna make any headway in this community as long as the party is run by the current crew

"The liberals are not gonna make any headway in this community as long as the party is run by the current crew"

The BC Liberals aren't gonna make head way in
any community as long as the party is run by
Kelly Reichardt.

The BC Libs just don't have the team to make use of a Wally Oppal. They only have one other real Indo mla in dave Hayer, and he pimps himself out by attending every event invited or not invited to.

Marty Brown is person known to be a few steps ahead of the game, so I am curious why he has not replaced these jokers working in victoria. Is Philip Yung not the multicultural director?where is he in all this?

"Marty Brown is person known to be a few steps ahead of the game, so I am curious why he has not replaced these jokers working in victoria."

Martyn Brown is a micromanager. He's been around
too long too. Time to replace him with someone new. Too controlling. He too hasn't had a real job as he's been a political hack since 1987.

I heard something interesting that Asheel Waziri, Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh's chief of staff was also in attendance at the Oppal breakfast. Fascinating.

Asheel Waziri who???

Never heard of this chap, he is obviously someone of no relevance.

Was Terry Lalari present or was he sidelined again, poor lad is having a tough time getting any respect.

Jonathan Ross is rumoured to be coming to Victoris to assume the MA role to Wally.

Poor Terry Lalri

Martyn Brown is not producing qualified and politically astute staffers, he should revamp the entire Rockpile, it needs a makeover

"Martyn Brown is a micromanager. He's been around
too long too. Time to replace him with someone new. Too controlling. He too hasn't had a real job as he's been a political hack since 1987."

Yes, Grit Guy & he's a Zalmoid to boot. I have heard too many M.A.s spout his gibberish - hasn't helped the image problems of this govt. ,to say the least!

"Martyn Brown is not producing qualified and politically astute staffers, he should revamp the entire Rockpile, it needs a makeover"

dudd: Brown's position is what needs a "makeover"

watch and see the Indos' will be back in power. Bob Rae will be the next fed liberal leader and win on the back of mass sign ups by the Indos

These Liberal wars seem to be affecting the provincial party as well as the national party, and with Jonathan Ross and TDH being a focus of some people's dislike and suspicion.

Personally I would be very surprised if Ross took an exempt staff job in Victoria as long as an essentially right wing Liberal like Campbell is in power. Unless, that is, ... Campbell's grip on the party is much looser than what I realize and that a leadership race is just around the corner. Ross has a political consulting business that would have to be put on hold if he took a position on Oppal's office, and Oppal is more a falling than a rising star.

Budd,

Every time you post, everyone understands better how clueless you really are.

The irony of the political scene right now is that it is the same circle that destroyed the B.C. Social Credit Party - the same key bagmen/strategist mix: P. Brown, Kinsella, Poole, Knott, J. & Reynolds that are now pulling the strings of Campbell, for their own vested interests, including the Olympics.

A very closed circle with an ongoing agenda. They are in the shadows, but be very sure: they are there.

Some of them are right wing - but they are not 'liberal' per se. Many of them are Federal Conservatives but they are all opportunists. They will make sure to replace Campbell now that he is damaged goods, with another 'puppet'.

Don't get lost in the forest focused on the trees.
Just my opinion -from experience.

Along with a bunch of smears and other crap there are a few comments in this blog worthy of comment

1) Coleman coronation ??? That is the dumest thing I have read all year , not gonna happen. There are way better candidates, and , depending on the timing , there will be more than 5 people running, any of whom would be better than Coleman

2) Constituency organization - Your right the BC Liberals are brutal at it . There are no true believers in the party and no attempts to rectify this

3) Time to replace Martyn Brown - truer words have never been spoken on this site !!!

4) John Ross - wasnt he JR/Sue Ellens son on Dallas ??? Why anyone would come and join that team in victoria (unless they are a masocist or are taking a vow of poverty ) is beyond me

5) Everyone should ease up on Terry , Parm and Barinder . They are good guys doing just tryin to do their jobs . They are not "powerbrokers"
Would think that people , based on past experience, would be less than intersted in having Indo-Canadian powerbrokers working at the Leg. !