Hey, Holman, when are you going post something about the LPCBC president's council. Some of us are dying to know what went on there.

What a bunch of wool sweatered, Birkenstock toting morons...

All they want is an opportunity to yell and scream about US Foreign Policy ON OUR GODAMNED DIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pass the dubes and the grape nuts and play guitar.

Where was the peace movement when Rwanda went up in smoke or when Saddam murdered half the Kurds in Northern Iraq. Silent.

Since Cuba's resident bastard Castro sent 30,000 troops to Angola in 1975, the 'modern' peace movement has been conspicuous by it's absence of commentary or protest, when the perceived aggressors in any war have been perceived to be right wingers or Conservatives. Vietnam was the anomaly since most of them were smoking too much dope, so I'm giving them a pass on that (generous of me, I think.....)

There is no peace movement. It's a piss movement. Piss on anyone who stands up for the right cause. Because if it's a left wing nutbar (redundant, I know, I know...) boy they just pass the bong and shut the hell up.

Putin's finger in the Iranian nuclear pie doesn't even get a smattering of attention from these ideologue whackjobs, but civilized and peaceful as they are, they won't hesitate to burn Dubya or Harper in effigy and wish for their children to die in Afghnistan. (By the way, where is Mr. Martin, er Dithers I mean, I thought we weren't sending troops to the Middle East--another Grit liar--again, redundant).

How peaceful of all of them...lying maggots.

Posted once again sure has his opinions, but a very large number of us think he is suckin wind. Canada has troops in the Middle east and yes the Liberals origionally sent them there, but the new guy in charge figures the rest of parliament has no right to debate if they should be there or how long they should stay there. And for folks against the peace movement, I understand the army is a little short of recruits now, and as long as you can pass the medical no matter what age, you can get right over there and straighten things out. will we see you volunteering, of course not.

DL (dumb and limp? most likely)

I am glad you tried to take my well researched and appropriate positions to task...it provided me review time, and....I erred...what I meant to say is that the peace Nazis are conspicuous by their absence when the aggressors in war are lefties like them, not, as I wrote about right wingers, because that's the only time idiots like you complain.

When Castro was in Angola, silence, when Rwanda was burning at the hands of a totalitarian
bandit(s), silence, when Putin's playing nuclear LEGO with the fundamentalist Iranian freaks in their Government, silence again.

But Harper inherits Martin's lie, and asses like you want to deflect to Parliament. Martin surely didn;t give a rat's ass about consultation then, but no complaint from your rabid left wing stump.

I have bashed as many of my own as I have yours. I call it fair and square.

And, no I would not pass the physical, you're right... frankly, I am rapidly losing my sight in my right eye.

Enjoy my dust...and come back for more, you're easy to slap around.

I tend to agree with Once that the there are way more scary people than Steven Harper or George Bush out there to worry about.
I am confounded by the leftist/liberal thinkers are not obsessed by all the truly evil deeds being perpetrated in front of very eyes.

Mr. Erwin, you flatter me with your support, kind Sir...bless you...

Hatchets to the heads of infants...the cutting off of fingers and toes...genital (usually clitoral) mutilation...public rape...

Dubya and Harper have their faults, no question, but the aforementioned atrocities happened during "peace time" and continue to happen in the places the peaceniks want Americans, Canadians and all others to withdraw from...

Now I ask you...who then is supporting violence, violence against innocent children, violence against defenseless (particularly in Africa and the Middle East) women? I'll tell you who: the assholes who burn effigies of Western leaders trying to make the world a better place. Those same assholes come to cities like Vancouver and parade around like they own the place, AT OUR EXPENSE, advocating "peaceful" positions like sending the Bush twins to their deaths in Iraq, or signing up Harper to a troop, or some other zany, whacko suggestion(s). The rent-a-crowd force will be game, so civil disobedience and violent behavior in the streets is supposed to do what?! Curb or stem violence in other countries?!?!?!? Gimme a godamned break. Hypocrites and liars, the lot of them.

To the issue: reports in both the Province and the Sun confirm that City Staff (Vancouver) have reported that the PeaceNazi's Forum has not passed the minimum requirements (and is significantly below that minimum bar) to getting the additional funding. That, in point of fact, this ill conceived Looney Larry project is well behind the proverbial eight ball.

Scrap the whole damned thing I say. Spend the money on something useful...

It is all reminiscent of Meathead Harcourt and his "nuclear free zone" signs...

Yeah, I'm just sure any nukes passing over Vancouver will just detour and head somewhere else after they read those signs...good call.

Vancouver has been plagued with the peacenik stupidity long enough...if the NPA want to really show that they care about this City and want to once again deliver on their promises of fiscal responsibility, then let them defeat the last fifty grand tomorrow in Council, to this ridiculous forum, and redirect it to a more needy proposition in our fair city.

Ever wonder why so many ex military are supporting the peace movement? It wasn't the peace movement that caused Rwanda; it was the UN not providing sufficient forces to stop it. General Dallaire was left out in the cold and many hundreds of thousands died but not because of the peace movement.
As for nukes passing by, just hope one never shows up. The waste materials of the nuclear business are still leaching into rivers as the nuclear fans are selling the idea how cheap and safe that stuff is.
As for slapping me around as I’m sort of dumb. Well I guess serving this country for 22 years in the military sure must have made me that way. Your feeble attempts to argue points sure don't sell well in this neighborhood. As for research, well maybe you figure anyone you disagree with is an idiot.
Take a read of a book about three fairly famous Canadians The Lion, the Fox, and the Eagle to maybe start to understand just how screwed up the UN actually is.
Calling a city nuclear free isn't that impossible. Works in other countries that simply will not allow US ships to drop in unless proven to be not nuclear.

A defense shield as proposed by Ronald Reagan and now Bush won't be helping Canada anytime soon it's cost mega bucks and this country is leaning toward the same thing
Dream on small mind!

DL,

The only one dreaming buddy is you. However.....the peace movement is a standing joke, philosophically and practically...my point was that they don't protest against left wing insurrectionists, just perceived right wingers. Therein lies the difference between our arguments. You see the trees in front of you, I see the forest.

The descent into hell my friend is the same from every angle, trust me, I've been to a few wars myself.....you're a jilted military boy, huh? Sorry about that. Thank you for doing that though, I mean it. It takes a great deal of sacrifice and uncommon valour to even pony up to that bar...particularly nowdays.

We'll agree to disagree, but I won't disrespect a former serviceman.

You have your opinion(s) and I have mine.

You should be proud to have worn Canadian colours. Thanks again.

Once Again, I think you may be making a big case out of very little. Routinely, people in a democracy protest those actions of their own or allied democracies that they disagree with. Protesting the actions of totalitarian regimes in kind of off-topic in a way, since one actual vote in an upcoming election is not at issue.

I don't think the peace activists have spared Tony Blair any of their anti-Iraq war criticisms simply becuase he's a Labour Party Leader and his party is a member of the leftist Socialist International along with the Canadian NDP.

Your Buddliness, where ya been?

As usual, more frothisms from you. What a load-o-spin...protesting only their own democracies and those allied?! BS!!!

The peace movement is steeped in intellectual fraud and hypocrisy.

Those that do not see it need their heads examined.

Blair's Labour Party, by the way, is no more socialist than I am. Blair, like Glen Clark locally, had to run as a moderate to right leaner to get elected.

You need a refresher course on global politics my friend.

Plans for Verradero Beach yet? Me thinks you had better get some RNR, the logical thinking veins are not quite clogged, but getting there.

See ya!

Methinks? Methinks?? Good God, this is driving me nuts. Methinks, for chrissakes, when you mean "I think ..." Or, on the other hand, do youthinks?

Once Again you're in error, as usual, except on one point. Peace activists like other protesters are usually concerned with actions of their own governments. Do you really expect to see people spending time trying to influence the policies of other countries? Think of it in local terms, do you normally expect to see people in Kamloops writing letters to the editor and holding meetings to protest zoning decisions in Vancouver? Well?

As for Cuba, I hear that the Chinese and Venezuelans are putting a lot of money into joint offshore oil ventures and the Chinese by themselves are investing in tourism facilities. The result is that prices for accommodation there are beginning to rise, so in the future Cuba will not be as dirt cheap as in the past. And by the time the Americans finally start doing business with Cuba, ... all the good investment opportunities will have been spoken for, a bit of poetic justice I think.

For some reason Liberal Imbecile and Shirley Chan Squeeze Steve Hopkins figured I must be a regular visitor to Veradero. The truth is that I have never visited any country besides Canada and the Western US, and very little of that.

However, my wife does want us to go to Cuba this fall and it's a challenge for me getting useful scuba diving information about Cuban resorts, another side effect of the idiotic US embargo. PADI (Professional Assn of Diving Instructors) has no official presence in Cuba and cannot give divers a list of accredited resorts there.

Have a nice day in NPA land, Once Again, because once the housing market peaks, then crashes, this council will be blamed for it and then turfed in 2008. But then that's rather academic too, because Premier Carol James will just have to amalgamate the GVRD anyway, just like Mike Harris did with Toronto, so it will soon be a whole new ball game altogether.

Is it once again or is it Bill O'reilly or is it a Bill O'reilly wannnabee.Same reductive logic, same fascistic fervour.