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Sporting a leather jacket and open-collared blue shirt, Liberal leader Paul Martin tried to play both defense and offense today during a campaign whistlestop in Victoria. Speaking to a packed conference room of supporters at the swanky Hotel Grand Pacific, Martin told the Garden City faithful that a re-elected Liberal administration would eliminate the federal government's $975 immigrant landing fee - an announcement that would have likely won more votes and ethnic media attention in multicultural centre that is Vancouver. But, as it stands right now, the news value of that gainesburger will likely expire at tomorrow when Mr. Martin makes a number of major and expected healthcare announcements. The Grit's grand chieftain, who is headed to Terminal City, also tried to monger some fear against Conservatives, noting the "fundamental difference" between himself and Stephen Harper was that the Tory leader would "leave Canadian families to fend for themselves." Meanwhile, rumours were circulating at the event that the Liberals will be rolling out a round of made-in-British Columbia advertising on Thursday - supporting the release of their region-specific platform on Friday.

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Sean, .... what is "a packed conference room of supporters"? Is that 100 people, 200 people, 500 people, or 1,000 or more? If it really was a reasonably large crowd, which in days gone by would have meant at least a few thousand but in today's world is reached at the 1,000 mark, that would be significant in terms of the Victoria and Esquimalt Juan de Fuca ridings that the Liberals are trying to hold, and which the NDP is trying to pick up.

Hi Budd,

You can watch the speech on CPAC... Martin has cranked up the tone - as to be expected.

The Liberals are counting on the belief that Canadians are now paying attentions. I suspect that is 50% true. The other 50% still goes to those that think this election is unnecessary and will not change their minds regardless of the issues or rhetoric. They made up their minds during the minority parliament.

As far as the definition of "packed", good question.

Good morning Eugene, ... please don't feel badly if I tell you frankly that I am not the slightest bit interested in viewing Martin's peroration on CPAC, or any other channel. Nor am I interested in reading a transcript of it.

A man who won't fly the Canadian flag of his profitable fleet of commercial steamships, and who then, in an election campaign, loudly proclaims in mock seriousness, "I love Canada!", has already said waaaaay too much.

Was less than 150....hmmmm. You think there would be more than 150 patronage appointees on the Island that would show up?

Good to see Paul Martin in Victoria.

If anyone in Victoria is thinking about voting NDP, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Stephen Harper's billion dollar-a-day promises, with a heavy dose of militarization of our country -- more army, more army, more army, star wars, etc., etc. is taken straight from the George Bush playbook.

Jack Layton says that he is willing to work with a Harper minority government.

This means that if you vote NDP, you can't guarantee that Harper won't win. Jack Layton might just be there standing beside him.

What would the two of them work on together? Well, let's see:

- two-tiered marriage??

- two tiered health care??

- cozying up to Uncle Sam on star wars??

- eating muffins together from the wives' auxilliary?

- getting troops out to Iraq???

It is absolutely, totally nuts that Jack Layton caused this premature election. He never had it so good under the Liberals.

Now, talking about working with Stephen Harper should show how ridiculous this man really is.

I think New Democrats should demand a coup within the party, and get a real leader who knows how to stop the Tories, not collaborate with them.

I don't think I have used this phrase in Publiceyeonline before, but my reaction to the diatribe by 'holmanwatcher' is best expressed in that old USENET acronym ROTFLMAO! It's a pity in some ways, because it's not that there aren't a few good debating points in holmanwatcher's screed. Two tiered health and two tiered marriage are examples.

But holmanwatcher needs to remember that Jack Layton and the New Democrats are opposed to those things, they are not within the somewhat narrow set of fields on which Tories and the NDP might agree to pass legislation jointly. However, things like ethics and accountability legislation, and insuring the independence and authority of offices such as the Privacy Commissioner and the Auditor General, are good examples of where every party except the insider/authoritarian party (i.e. holmanwatcher's beloved Liberals), are more or less in agreement.

So nice try holmanwatcher, but you're going to have to come up with something more realistic if you want to stop the evolution that's inching towards this nation on January 23rd, and if you haven't found it in the last 12 years, your chances of discovering it in the next 3 weeks don't look very promising.

Budd,

holmanwatcher is on the mark - and I think to myself why the hell would Canada want to go the way of the US and enter into Bush's Basllistic Missles, Massive Military expansion, Tax cutting, back out of kyoto extremism.

The worst things about this campaign is I think that Harper has actually managed to convince a lot of people that Canada is in a pretty shitty state - when in fact we're the envy of the world.

It is just a shame, and I hope we don't head down to Bush's path to destruction. But, maybe it is inevitable.

"back out of kyoto"

Cus our sig on that piece of paper has helped us eliminate so much pollution.

Time to go the way of the US and start cutting our Greenhouse gases.

"The worst things about this campaign is I think that Harper has actually managed to convince a lot of people that Canada is in a pretty shitty state - when in fact we're the envy of the world."

I'm not aware of any focus the Conservatives have put on Canada being in a poor state financially, which is where I would agree with you we must be the envy of many countries.

There are other areas however where we are in a poor state such as government ethics, the evnironment, and our military.

Fiscally, the Liberals and Conservatives have pretty much the same fiscal policies. They try to make them look different for the cameras, but meh, they're pretty much the same.

Only problem I have is calling our recent budgets "balanced" +10bil or -10bil, a balanced budget is +/-0 on the bottom line, otherwise we are spending too much/not enough, or taxing too much/not enough. That and the recent spending spree outside the budget process, but it's not too worriesome cus we all know little of it will actually happen =)

Haha.. I think Bush is a bit dull myself, what a contrast to Stephen Harper.


Budd writes,

"Good morning Eugene, ... please don't feel badly if I tell you frankly that I am not the slightest bit interested in viewing Martin's peroration on CPAC, or any other channel. Nor am I interested in reading a transcript of it. "

Budd, all is kewl with how you feel!

You are part of the 50% who either A) are activists and decided long ago, or B) those that decided during the minority parliament.... you are the same as 50% of the voters. That is kewl with me.

But what are the other 50% seeing? They are seeing a Liberal campaign that has cranked up, moved beyond the scandles, is full of life, and almost immediately the NDP and CPC are getting cranky about it.

Now if the NDP or CPC want to actually win, they have to out general the old general... everything to date was just the warm up. Now it is for all the jelly beans. For 75 of the last 100 years opposition parties are those that win the first part of the election race but cannot respond in the last part.


"... a Liberal campaign that has cranked up, moved beyond the scandles, is full of life, and almost immediately the NDP and CPC are getting cranky about it."

Good afternoon Eugene. What on earth are they feeding you at Liberal HQ, now that you have left the Tories, and how on earth can they afford the groceries when they are carrying over $15 million in demand bank loans from the last election in 2004? This Liberal campaign is no more full of life than was the horse-drawn carriage with a flat rear wheel that Martin tried to drive during one of the Saskatchewan photo ops.

You may have had good reason to leave the Tories, but you should have exercised greater care in your choice of destinations.

"You may have had good reason to leave the Tories, but you should have exercised greater care in your choice of destinations."

LOL

I'm not as partisan as you presume. I hate the fact that being involved in politics - even marginally - means one has to somehow always be on the same side even though no one side is always right. I can, from time to time, find value almost everywhere.

I think all three major parties have merit to some degree and any positive comments should not be taken as a blanket endorsement. I prefer to just be fair-minded (as far as one can be and still be human).

Although, at this moment in time my negative comments about the conservatives are pretty strong; I do believe the CPC is not ready for power as they are currently too individualistic, too greedy for power for its own sake, ignorant on too many issues with bigoted elements intermixed with their policy positions. Also, their bench strength at this time is low (education, life accomplishments etc.) compared to the rest of the parliament.

Can you convince me, or more importantly, can you convince voters that the NDP is not collectivist nor simplistic and that it has real bench strength with a team full of real life accomplishments?

Take the "real life accomplishements category"... I know you don’t like the fact that Paul Martin is a shipping tycoon, but compared with Stephen Harper who claims to be some sort of business guru, Stephen Harper is a loser and Paul Martin is the business winner… that is real world mono a mono comparison skill for skill.

What does Layton got to put on the table and compare against?

If you want people to go from CPC right to NDP... you gotta have something that makes the case.

Jack Layton has a PhD in political science and has been a Toronto City Councillor for twenty years. He has taken a leadership role for many years in the Confederation of Canadian Mayors and Municipalities. It was at the constant urging of that body that Paul Martin agreed to begin transferring parts of the federal excise tax on gasoline to the cities and municipalities, something that the Liberal Government had previously resisted.

Other talented NDP candidates include former Leader Alexa MacDonough, former Gov-Gen and Premier Edward R. Schreyer, Olivia Chow, Jack's partner and also a Toronto City Councillor, Lorne Nystrom (a member of the Privy Council, first elected in 1968), and in BC Svend Robinson, Nathan Cullen, Peter Julian, Penny Priddy, Denise Savoie, Mike Bocking, Alex Atamenko, and Nancy Clegg.

There are, admittedly, no $100,000 per year plus Privy Council employees like Bill Cunningham, and no Senators in waiting like Dave Haggard, on the NDP roster of candidates.

Given some of the silly bugger lines in your latest post, Eugene ("... Stephen Harper is a loser and Paul Martin is the business winner? that is real world mono a mono comparison skill for skill"), I think your claim to be doing your best to avoid undue partisanship is wearing a bit thin.

Golly...seems like another minority government in the works....will they be able to work any better together this time around and is this just a precursor to how Proportional Government would operate?

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