Morgan Stewart is also listed as the official Registrant for Ben Isitt's website, www.benisitt.org

http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=benisitt.org

Do these candidates have much in the way of platforms?

Personally, I'd like to see an emphasis on "greening" the city with a meaningful tree-planting program that is also tied to all the re-curbing the city is doing.

"Trees are the lungs of a city"

If the city is going to continue to rightly spend millions managing streetscapes, I think a full-scale treescape program should be in place to complement the effort.

This "rewriting" of opponents’ biographies as noted in Sean Op Ed is not solution-oriented politics. IMHO

I also think the city should be working more seriously with the regional and Island water management groups… having the city go brown every summer is not necessary nor natural for Victoria. We should have a green city – literally – year round.

Eugene Parks

While we are asking our local politicians to change things, we might stop crapping in the bay.
In the early 70's, the sewer outlet was a big item. One guy on council kept telling everyone, vote for me and you can be assured the sewer outlet will never bother anyone. It still bothers a lot of people. As a tax payer, owner in this town it bothers me as well. If millions can be spent by all levels of government in other places, why not here as well as it's getting embarrasing to hear about the basically raw sewer with the biggest lumps removed still ending up in the bay.

Of course they have platforms, and they're much better than the anschluss with Esquimalt I expect you're looking for Eugene.

Ben wants to collectivize the farms and Lowe wants to half-build more infrastructe that comes with built in pre-crumbling features.

Er, I mean "infrastructure"

Hi Andrew,

I believe you wrote, "... better than the anschluss with Esquimalt"

I'm not an advocate for amalgamation. Although, Bruce Hallsor and the Octagons are. You have mistaken the views of your conservative friends for others.

However, I do reminder you that you are on record as categorically believing in the anschluss of aborginal title... strange how something like a muncipal boundry is important enough to you, but you are not willing to recognize aborignal title boundries....

But back to the topic at hand, if these people have platforms, what are they? So far we have suggessions from me:

1. green the city (trees and water)

and from DL

2. proper waste management

Andrew, do you have any *constructive* proposals... or is your post just the typical conservative board member internet drive-by shooting?... mistating others postions, stating none of your own, hiding your own, and hoping we don't notice.

Eugene, I don't hide. I don't hide behind erratic self-replying or the hoity toity use of the term "aboriginal" whenever you want to wontonly malaign people you don't even know.

For the record, my reference to "anschluss" was a crack at your bizarre far-right positions on issues like same sex marriage or a woman's right to choose rather than any indication of my support for amalgamation. Jeez, if I wanted to argue in favour of amalgamation why would I start with Esquimalt of all places?

As for my thoughts on where civic leadership should take Victoria in the next 20 years, I'd suggest things like:

1) Encourage increased population density in the downtown core.

2) Creating a friendly aptmosphere for small business to thrive and provide services to this growing community. By encouraging small business we can have the services we need, build a strong local economy, while preventing the massive chains from setting up shop. For example, the 7-11 on Government St. is a travesty.

3) Hold people like Allan Lowe personally responsible for the arena debacle. I'm no lawyer, but I would be willing to bet there is a reasonable arguement to be made for gross dereliction of duty in negotiation of this contract.

Andrew,

Stop hyperventilating... and hear what is being said to you.

I support women setting policy on abortion... start listening. On SSM... my position was civil unions for civil rights and traditional marriage for tradition marriage. Now that issue is over I say move on. If that is too self-righteous and too weird for you I think you have issues.

Now as to the municipal election, how do you propose supporting business (other than by stopping business from setting up).

Eugene

As for the aborignal issue, you still have not addressed how it is that you support municipal boundries but not aboriginal title boundries... seems to me you are a little too far right for me.

Saying it's a woman's policy to set is a chicken shit way of saying you're anti-choice Eugene. And being wrong in the past on SSM doesn't give you any legitimacy to say that at least you aren't wrong anymore.

I am neither for nor against municiple boundaries any more than I am for or against the sun rising and setting or the tides changing, they are unchangable realities to work within. Perhaps next time you're sailing the earth you probably believe to be flat you'll find these facts worthy of note.

In terms of supporting business, I mean by stopping stopping it from setting up. The Victoria council has a long history of being anti-business of all forms, the only time it seems to make exceptions is when really large offensive corporations like 7-11 or RG Properties comes along.

Victoria council needs to get some priorities set straight. Protect that which is worth protecting (our beautiful city and its docile relaxed environment) while taking the oppourtunities to proactivly build on what we have in a manner condusive to our long-term desires for this city.

Evolve or die. Maybe you don't buy the theory of evolution Eugene, but when it comes to social, business, and geopolitical evolution, Victoria needs to learn quick.

Andrew,

I'm for women setting policy on abortion; I personally believe life begins and ends with brainwaves. If women want to take that view into account - so be it. If they choose to ignore my opinion, I'm still glad to see women manage the issue. As you have stated, you think that position is weird... so be it.

As for SSM, my position in the past was as it is now: civil unions for civil rights and the traditional definition of marriage for traditional marriage. I argued for nearly two years online with conservatives for that position. Most conservatives only wanted the traditional definition of marriage. You are free to call that wrong if you like. I did. You are free to call my position wrong. They sure did. You can even think my position is weird. So be it. I think my position was/is fair to everyone. You have a right to your opinion and can think otherwise if you like. But like I said, the issue is dead. So, move on.

As for the theory of evolution, where in the world do you get the weird idea that I don't believe in that? I believe the universe is about 9 billion years old (+/- a few billion), the earth is 4 billion (+/- a few hundred million), life evolved starting about 3 billion years ago. I am a theist who thinks god made evolution as the way of things.... the prevailing view of most scientists, philosophers, and theologians. Get a grib Andrew... I don't know who you think I am but you seem to be hyper-ventilating about someone else.

As for municipal politics... being anti 7/11 isn't saying anything about how to be pro-business. Your "policy" position is just another example of conservative "anti" this or that rant.... give some postive concrete examples. Otherwise, you are contentless.

My dearest nincompoop,

I can't understand your many made up words and uncorrected spelling errors. Your words are worse than deviod of content, they are unintelligible.

You are the weakest link, goodbye,

Thank Andrew,

I think you understand that you have been publically insulting positions and people by mistating their beliefs.

In general, I believe you and your conservative board friends have been attacking a lot of positions without foundation (ignorance). ex: aborignal affairs, environment, ecomonics, Paul Martin on Gomery, municipal issues such as amalgamation etc.

Further, you came to this thread claiming a lot of stuff about Lowe, myself, 7/11, etc. but offer no positive policy ideas related to this thread. What do you offer that is concrete and positive that would be of interest to the upcoming municipal elections?

I stand by my believe that the local conservative moment has fallen deep into the belief that "an attack is content" and that "ignorance is bliss".

Eugene Parks

PS Your conservative team has spent two years worhsiping the imagination void Stephen Harper and gambling the entire conservative movement on the hope that Paul Martin is guilty... now that it is official he is innocent... the CPC is left with nothing federally to stand on. Yes, the CPC is on its way to 19% in the polls... and maybe about 70 seats in the next elections (or less)... all because there is no concept of a positive agenda and no concerns about attacking the innocent.