I've heard them called the red meat eaters, etc. but it hadn't occured to me that we were the ones on the menu.

It does add up, now that you mention it.

At the regional CPC meeting earlier this month one of the strategy workshops dealt with "savaging". In the US, where our conservative whack jobs take their cues from, neocons and fundaMENTAL christians yearn for the days of lynchings and cross burnings..so they depend on moronic thugs like Bill O'Reilly and other liars like Anne Coulter to whip up a frenzy among right wing droolers.

And it's all coming to Cananda courtesy of guys like Steve Simpson. These are the kind of folks that Sam Sullivan aligns himself with when he's not buying crack and smack for junkies and hanging out with anti gay and anti abortion types like John Hof. Trying to portray Hof as Metcalfe's buddy doesn't extricate Sam from the stink these kind of extremists emit.

I keep on expecting to see Rachel Marsden showing up as a talking head in an NPA ad extolling their virtues.

sleeps,, do you understand the word extremist?

what do you call yourself?//
bill O,reilly blows the ratings away night after night,, thats extreme.
to gain some insight your probably whatching as well,,,,,

budlight,[ the beer that is]

Well budlight, ... or NicThePrick if you prefer.

Tell me, does Rachel Marsden help Bill O'Reilly keep his ratings up or just ...

Seriously, it looks like Sullivan is relying pretty heavily on some Tory types to put his campaign over the top. I expect Green will probably be keeping the NDP organization at a discrete distance, accepting their help, but not yielding control.

They say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist. Thus Colin Metcalfe and Co. neatly managed to get the media fixated on a "Liberal machine" working for Christy Clark to cover the fact that Stephen Harper and his buddies owned the Sullivan campaign lock-stock and barrel.

My hats off to them. It was a smart political move bought by a dumb media. Was it any surprise that with the NPA having turned into a Tory club that the Fed Libs would decide it was time to throw their own weight around?

What NPA members failed to grasp is that with the Fed Liberals polling at around 50% in the Lower Mainland and the Tories in the low 20's, and with the real fight being for middle of the road voters, the NPA would have been much better off if the other side had won.

Folks may not have been aware of Sullivan's fondness for using street people as lab rats, but many already realized he was a painfully weak, flawed candidate who hid behind his disability in the vain hope that his unsuitability as a mayoral candidate would be ignored.

I'm sure someone will jump in this thread to remind me that a smattering of Liberals worked for Sullivan - you know, the bitter and disaffected and that a smattering of Tories worked for Clark - you know, the ones who actually wanted to beat Cope/Vision. So what?

The real story is that it was a show down between Liberal and Conservative operatives and the Liberals learned that Metcalfe's imported Repuiblican assassination techniques are highly effective. The federal campaign should be really interesting when both sides take off the gloves.

They say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist. Thus Colin Metcalfe and Co. neatly managed to get the media fixated on a "Liberal machine" working for Christy Clark to cover the fact that Stephen Harper and his buddies owned the Sullivan campaign lock-stock and barrel.

My hats off to them. It was a smart political move bought by a dumb media. Was it any surprise that with the NPA having turned into a Tory club that the Fed Libs would decide it was time to throw their own weight around?

What NPA members failed to grasp is that with the Fed Liberals polling at around 50% in the Lower Mainland and the Tories in the low 20's, and with the real fight being for middle of the road voters, the NPA would have been much better off if the other side had won.

Folks may not have been aware of Sullivan's fondness for using street people as lab rats, but many already realized he was a painfully weak, flawed candidate who hid behind his disability in the vain hope that his unsuitability as a mayoral candidate would be ignored.

I'm sure someone will jump in this thread to remind me that a smattering of Liberals worked for Sullivan - you know, the bitter and disaffected and that a smattering of Tories worked for Clark - you know, the ones who actually wanted to beat Cope/Vision. So what?

The real story is that it was a show down between Liberal and Conservative operatives and the Liberals learned that Metcalfe's imported Repuiblican assassination techniques are highly effective. The federal campaign should be really interesting when both sides take off the gloves.

My hat's off to Jerry, who apparently can tell the difference between a Harper Tory and a Campbell Liberal.

That's a very specialised skill, I imagine it's a lot like "sexing" chicks.

Jerry,

How good of you to grace us with your bathwater chugging exhibition. If only it were so simple, eh old chum?

The pathetic posting you permitted yourself to regurgitate is similar to the nonsense you have printed in the past.

The NPA would not have been better off with Christy. She is a great candidate, but not for the NPA this time around. The grassroots of the organization would have walked. It was the carpetbagger issue moreso than anything else. Plus, those that had, until that point, sank the NPA campaign (Greg Wilson, Lynne Kennedy, et. al.) looked to her to save their flagging fortunes. Star power, they figured, would raise all boats. Why else would Lynne Kennedy snort, "What's Sam's plan, he doesn't have one, he's never had one..." This from a woman who up until the late fall was self-servingly, actively playing footsie with the idea of running for Mayor! Lord above, save us from such a scourge--ever! While Lynne was flagellating us all with her nuggets of (non)wisdom, Sam and Colin were carefully putting together a GENUINE plan and platform (the beginning of it anyway) that is in the best interest of this City. That's also how this test was won.

As it turns out, Metcalfe, leather jacket be damned, has actually moved with some purpose and compromise never before seen on his part. The hiring of Mike Hillman as Campaign General, replacing Wilson, was brilliant, as only he (Hillman) could bridge the gap between Greg Wilson's DIVA spun misdirection and the promised land.

Your contention that Metcalfe has also used Republican tactics is yet another effort to try to propaganize, deflect and eventually redirect people's attention from what's really happening: COPE/VV are losing ground by the day, and the NPA under Sullivan are going to pull it off despite the Wilsons and Kennedys of the world.

You also erroneously suggest that the Fliberals are at 50% and the Tories in the low 20's. You either do a great quantity of narcotics or do not read the papers...mind you reading the Mop and Pail can result in the same phenomenon.

I will not, as you feebly predicted, jump in and tell you of the Grits that worked for Sam and Colin. They were there and there were many. But all that is irrelevant. What is relevant is that exact same combination was also used by Christy and it failed. Know why? Because they had no cause. Christy wants the Premier's chair and thought this was the best way in. After all, Campbell and Harcourt had an easy springboard across the Strait (although they both wanted the Mayor's chair for all the right reasons--wanting to be Premier did not come until later), so do the same, she thought.....many of us personally warned her of the potential loss of great political capital--but she didn't want to listen.

Even the Fiberal dirty tricks that ensued weren't enough.....

You have to get your story straight Jerry old boy. Otherwise, you will come second to His All Buddliness as having firmly esconsed yourself in blogger purgatory, where you can neither move up or down, a sort of political limbo that the NDP across the land can (thankfully) always look forward to--there's a 20% ceiling Jerry, make note of it.

What a fool Budd was above to even think of suggesting that Green isn't getting NDP help. Nice try Budd. Too much soda this morning to cur ethe upset tummy? What is it you're on anyway? Your NDP are thick as thieves in the plot to keep Vancouver City in their clutches. That's who runs COPE, that's who runs VV, and that's who are self destructing in Victoria. The union bosses will never let go, as they are the greatest special interest groups around.

At the end of the day Jerry old boy, you made a valiant effort to try and use misinformation to prove your point, which ended up lost in your treatise: correctly, the next federal election will indeed be interesting. It's a long road pal, and anything could happen. But the public will, rightfully, reject Republican tactics as much as they will the filth that has become the federal Liberal Party, in depserate need of a tactical enema.

I guess that leaves the NDP at 20%...yeah right, dream on little one.

Have a good Satyrday...Sleeps couldn;t make it today, he is delightfully intertwined with his latest angel.....so much for sleeping...

Ahhh..waky waky...the crack of noon

I see there has been some heavy lifting in my abscence. Jerry..I've misjudged you, you have a knack for vision and clarity of thought. Once Again..you have outdone yourself in trying to rise to the challenge of Jerry having struck a nerve. As much as you would like to characterize Jerry's perception of reality as misinformation, I believe that most voters, given the facts, will agree with Jerry's observations.

The question that remains is..will guys like Allan Garr, Charlie Smith, Kevin Potvin and Bill Teillman devote some meaningful ink to clue the voters into the fact that extreme right wingers are behind Sullivan?

BL/nic the prick: No..I don't watch Bill O'Rielly or anyone like him as I detest noise pollution. Are you always loaded or are you just always running a few quarts low? Try reading your output when your're sober or....never mind.

Sleeps,

Me thinks you had better return to the servitude of the nubile maiden and forget the faux demagoguery.

Once the facade completely falls off Jabba Jim, the game will be over.

All the tirades in the world about Republicans, Democrats or self-replicating animals won't matter. Contrary to your opinion, the public are already turning on Jim and COPE. You will get Louie and maybe Stevenson. One hears that the Heathers are too far behind, and not playing to Jimmy's tune. Even Deal?! Good Heavens above!
HAHA!

The NPA has righted it's ship, but not in so much as political direction but comprehensive purpose.
Sam has a plan that works for Vancouverites and doesn't just pay lip service, only to hand the keys to the City to Sinclair and the unions.

I will look forward to your entertaining but worthy scribbles tomorrow. For today, I bid you a good few hours of recovery.

I am taking the prince and princess on a tour of the new grotto. Family fun for everyone. Nothing like it.

Happy "crepefest" this evening.....:-)

Once Again

A little birdy told me that aside from the impossible task of trying to knock off incumbents, the NPA's biggest challenge is trying to keep it's troops from pushing the self destruct button. One way to do that is to lie to the team..tell them that the opposition is falling behind. If it works for the team, might as well lie to the voters as well...publish a poll taken from calling NPA supporters who said they narrowly favour Sam....yeeehawww...when I saw the poll specs I nearly didn't make it to the can I was laughing so hard.

Yup...it will be all smiles and hype in the NPA camp, until the 20th, when the long knives come out..and Dr. Lecter tucks his bib in and starts cutting.

"... His All Buddliness ..."???

Once Again, it looks like those weekend libations and concu-combinations have returned you to good humour, but perhaps the volumes of said enjoyments were somewhat over done.

I didn't mean to imply that the NDP wouldn't be helping Jim Green and VV, along with COPE to some degree. Only that Green will want to keep their presence somewhat at a distance and have the upper level of the VV campaign run by people who are not very much involved with federal or provincial work for fear of getting into the kind of senior-government level controversies that seem to befalling the Sullivan campaign.

That's hard for any NDP type effort to do since it is, much more than the other two parties, a single Federal/Provincial membership and organization. But local politics in Vancouver for the left has always been a situation where there was a bit more distance between the proxy local NDP and the official Fed/Prov NDP, partly because the NDP was never comfortable with the Rankinites and other ideological Marxists in COPE.

The split between COPE and VV is just the latest chapter in a long story of fluid alliances on the left in Vancouver City, that some days grow a bit tighter, and on other days grow quite a bit looser. Right now they are at pretty much the extreme end of the "let's loosen up" cycle.

Budd,

I have to veer from our chat and tell you yet another story that I am sure will endear you to me even more (other than I consider the Glenmeister amoung my friends)...Harry Rankin was a friend of mine. He would let me sit in his office on Alexander and I would hone my skills against a guy who was misperceived as a rabid Marxist. What a benevolent bullshitter. He was, in a sense, that way, but still had a good understanding of the task at hand. He was a wonderful man. His tirades against Puil were more a dislike against similarity of delivery than such a vast difference of opinion. You mentioned him, and after a day of swimming with the kiddies and a couple of Russian IV's, I waxed nostalgic of old Harry.

He was a guy I gave my vote to many times (oops, did I say that!) I thought he brought balance and reason to City Hall. In the end, he stayed on too long, like Bellamy and Puil and others. Harry wasn't useless or a desperate idealogue like that tit Yorke or the greatest tit of all Eriksen.

Anyway, nice to hear from you and I enjoy, and learn from your perspectives of the NDP. Thank you for that.

Good ole' Harry: "You're not really as big a fucking right winger as you think now are you, too much heart in that barrel chest of yours...I served with a fellow in the war like you...good man...hey, just make sure you remember that they're gonna sprinkle my ashes off Siwash Rock, that's where I'll be one day". Those were his last words to me.

Indeed, greatness comes in kindness and goodness, and it is indeed blind to race, colour, creed and political stripe.

Once Again, I never meant to deride Rankin on a personal basis, nor to discount his status as a "Vancouver Original".

But if not him personally, certainly among some of the other Vancouver Marxists who were part of Harry's network, there was the same distressing tendency one found in Marxists across Canada, to forgive and excuse in a quite unforgivable way every excess of Soviet foreign policy. This made it very awkward for NDPers, who also wanted to be active at the Federal level, to enjoy a fully satisfactory relationship with these people in local politics, even if they agreed on most purely local issues.

once again

I guess it must still "rankle" you that the 'tit' Bruce York beat Philip Owen in the 1986 byelection for council.

Of course I'm being facetious here but in defiance of those imperialistic,genocidal 'tits' in Washington (DC), I'd love to see a Marxist government in BC replete with it's own Kremlin and Politburo..just to piss the bastards off.
And sure, why not..a KGB as well..all the better to root out rogue capitalists..you know, the kind that pollute and clear cut and cheat the government out of taxes. Then we would have to create gulags..piece of cake..just drop them on an arctic ice flow and let them fend for themselves.

Naturally the west side would become a ghost town but would soon be occupied by drug rehab clinics and half way houses along side brothels and hash pads...wot's not to like?

Budd,

Quite right.

Indeed, that tendancy to excuse the Soviets and call on this greater dogma that was out there, was not only distressing for like minded left coasters, I'm sure, but also tough to figure out for the rest of us. The Soviet Union, at the end of the day, like all left wing ideologies is flawed...as they never take into consideration the all encompassing human greed that dwells within each of us, much or little.

As for this flake Republican wet Dream, all I can say is that the more idiots like that that we harbour the easier it will be for America to move closer to China as their largest trading partner, and then I'd like to see RWD's useless dogma filled ass! What a fool. It's fine to believe in a particular ideology, but to be wanton about a certain system only to goad the gorilla into a fight is assinine, but typical of the extreme left secularists like this moron RepublicanWetDream.

Oh well, take care Budd.

Ideally we should stop all trade with the Great Satan and leave them to their devices, by all means, let Walmart et al fill their boots in China, those two countries deserve each other.

As crude oil disappears so will the US and China. Both countries will be beset by revolution and chaos. If Canada is smart they will take some short term pain and shift their focus to developing renewable energy. Ban the gas guzzlers and shift our health care system to all an natural medicinal regime with an emphasis on a whole food diet. We would ban processed foods and factory raised meat and poultry. Both wheat and cow based dairy would also be banned as they are also over hyped and have dubious health benefits.

I'm sure you'll think this is daft crazy talk but when crude oil stocks go into serious decline you'll wish Canada had withdrawn from NAFTA. As for the rest of our entrenched systems of food and medicine delivery, they have already provens themselves to be genocidal whether you can see it or not. Ignore the facts at your own peril.

RWetDream,

Your entire postion is based on the assumption that crude will be gone sooner than later...I don't think so...that prediction has been successfully refuted by a number of independent, non-partisan think tanks, both in Canada and abroad.

Your further, issue specific positions on whole food and renewable energy resources and the like, are laudable but completely incongruent with a non-command economy (read: a capitalist economy, which is what we will always have), in the sense that no government, even if it were (perish the thought) Jack Layton's crew of nutters, would be able to sustain progressive production levels or positive growth. Impossible. And, perhaps indefensible. Canada's economy is fuelled by it's trade with the USA, and I will agree that such being the case we have become the economic 'little buddy', but let's not get ahead of ourselves. We aren't talking about US hedgemony here. Canada has much to gain by having a healthy relationship with our partner to the South. It should though, be just and fair--both ways.

Nice pipe dream though, in your case and in mine :-)

One thing crude oil analysts typically fail to take into account is the increasingly voracious demand for the stuff that China and India have. As the price for refined products rises the impact on commuters from the suburbs and our supply of food will be severe and have negative impacts on the economy that will not abate until said economy is in free fall.
There is an upside as I will finally be able to stomach the reduced prices for a few acres in the Southlands...a more convenient location to stable the horse that I will ride downtown on near deserted streets. Ex stock brokers will be scrambling to gather the droppings for fuel to heat their cans of artificial pork and beans.
It can't happen soon enough for my liking.

Budd, is it true that some in the Movement are referring to BCTF Pres. Jinny Sims as Commandante Zero + Zero? Man. Talk about harsh. Ten days pay is enough for two weeks at Veradero over Christmas and New Year's. Well, it's adios hermanos to that. Maybe a week-ten days at Easter.

All of this is weird shit. I thought that Christy was the right-winger (with Campbell, school cuts, etc.) and Sam was the left-winger (buying drugs for addicts, care for the disadvantaged, etc.) Sam spent a lot of time talking about how Christy didn't understand that the NPA isn't a right wing party!

Now I see that all of this is turned on its head. Christy, the former cabinet minister and failed mayorality candidate, says that the teachers should have a pay raise because the government has money. Sam, the candidate for mayor, has Stephen Harper's right hand man running his campaign, and we discover in today's Vancouver Sun that he is against opening gay bars, against giving gays extra money for the Pride Parade, and against having outdoor cafes, and thinks that it isn't fun drinking alchohol.

Sounds like there are some serious inconsistencies.

All of this means only one thing: you have to vote. And make sure that when you vote, you vote for ANYONE but the NPA.

What is Veradero?

Harry

The COPE/VV slates have a strong start to the week in the Sun. It remains to be seen if, by the end of the week, the Sun will have manufactured more support for the NPA and turned the tide against the left. They are masters at that sort of manipulation..or they could surprise us all with news and opinions which favour the left. If that happens it would be due to the Sun's editorial board deciding that the left dominated council had been good for Vancouver and that Sullivan with his extreme right wing backers would be a step backwards.

Whata bunch of manipulative crackpots!
RWetDream and Harry are incredible twits.

Let's get the spin machine into the shop, you've broken it on sheer volume.

Sam Sullivan is NOt against gay bars or gay anything. He is against extending the hours of gay bars past those of regular bars.

Sam Sullivan is not against giving gays "extra" money for the pride parade--CITY STAFF (remember them?) recommended strongly against giving the Pride Parade any extra money (they were asking for an additional 5K over and above what they already received as per staff recommendations)

Sam Sulivan is not against patio cafes. He is for responsible and civil behavior. MANY outdoor extended licences have had serious problems in Vancouver, but of course, you left wingnuts don't talk abou those since they were part of your own experimentation.

Get your facts straight.

And as for the Sun, they always favour the left over the right. Always and probably forever, there is no balance in the media.

Budd,

Veradero is in Cuba. A very beautiful beach indeed.

My wife is saying we should make a trip to Cuba but so far I have never been there. I hear the scuba diving is good.

Budd!

Your the man! Cuba is wonderful. Even for a sensitive, cigar smoking capitalist pig such as myself. The other idelogical Cuban swine actually make it more than enjoyable as they have no interest in either dark chocolate skin beauties at Veradero, the tobacco kind or the live version.....trust me on this, leave the wife at home!!!!!

:-)

Quoted from once again

"And as for the Sun, they always favour the left over the right. Always and probably forever, there is no balance in the media."

You got the last part right, but as for the Sun favouring the left..wow..I think Sam might have slipped some crack in your trick or treat bag.

You must be so extreme right you think the BC Liberals are left wing.

As for trying to defend SS, not even Joseph Goebbels could could help him. Sam has sold his soul to the Republican/CPC machine who won't be happy until Dick Cheney says so and all BC's profitable public institutions are owned by Republican backers.

Republicanwetdream,

Why don't you grow up.

take a shower

Just because you don't like what I say doesn't mean I haven't nailed it.

BC Liberals hate it when they are exposed as far right and in the pockets of the Republican party.

Ditto for the CPC and NPA.

why is Once Again complaining so vociferously?

Didn't he know that he would be courting trouble by mounting a nomination campaign on the basis of "stopping the Federal Liberal Machine"?

By doing so, they begged the question, what machine is backing Sam Sullivan? And then, it becomes clear that Sam sells his soul to the devil, and they've got the far right wing troops from Langley out to "stop Christy Clark".

What Sam should have done is paint Christy Clark as a Gordon Campbell right-wing puppet. He tried to do that a little bit, but instead went for this Federal Liberal machine stuff. I guess he felt that he could alienate federal Liberals (most of whom like Larry Campbell and will be voting for Jim Green), but couldn't piss off the Gordon Campbell lovers, because they, in their heart of hearts, love Stephen Harper.

You can't have it both ways, Once Again!

Ha!

Don't you just love it. The right wing used to raise fears of "the socialst hordes" prior to elections and that used to resonate with voters until they wised up. I credit the extreme corruption of the Mulroney regime for finally clueing in the voter that they had far more to fear from right wing theives than left wingers who wanted more public money for helping the disadvantaged as well as protecting universal healthcare and education.

This year's Vancouver civic campaign will truly mark a turning point in the consciousness of Vancouver voters. In 2002 voters turned on the NPA for a variety of reasons now they will kick NPA's ass because they will finally see them for what they really are: an extreme right wing, old establishment party only interested in lining the pockets of a few wealthy insiders at the expense of the citizens of Vancouver.

Someone whould whisper to Mile Hllman that while he toils away with the NPA , CC & MM are busy behind the scenes sniffing out a new job for Christy - President of the National Liberal Party - a job Hillman thought was his.

It is funny that Sam is trying to win the support of the same East Indians that he trashed in the nomination election.

If Sam had it his way, he would ship them back to India on the next boat. ( A mayor in Vancouver already did that in 1914.)

Sam has no chance in getting support from the Indian community. They know that he is a bigot.

The funniest is the NPA trying to go after the Chinese vote, but they usually don't come out to vote.

Peter

Cuba's lovely, once they've finished cleaning up after the hurricanes. But it's the purity of their socialist ideals that I really appreciate. Of course, everyone's dirt-poor, but equally so. Oh and it's illegal to be gay or belong to a union or disagree with the government or leave(if you were lucky enought to be born there). But hey, if it's a cheap resort you're looking for, they've got the happiest slaves this side of China and the booze is very reasonably priced.

Don't Complain,

Confused and convoluted, your comments are nothing more than that.

Sam painting Christy as a Gordo puppet? Ah, dear heart, Gordo and Christy HATE each other with a passion to rival all others. Again, another idiot left coaster with a lack of gray matter and no straight information, that's what you are. No one except the Clark campaign made itself a Grit whipping post.....one cheque wonders at the nomination closing, with 75% of the names Indo-Canandian, scads of whom were not citzen residents, and did not know they were on the list (you have to individually sign the membership card--oops!) calling off current phone lists when the NPA Board forbade the distribution of said
list(s), etc. Gee, can't imagine how anyone would identify such political pillage and dishonesty as Grit. You're a moron, no other Canadian party issues such corrupt instructions to it's members.

Republican Wet Dream, is really all wet. The only insiders that will get their pockets lined are the same union bastards that have screwed this province and country silly, because, as it looks COPE/VV will get a mjority of council, but not for the ignorant reasons this other idiot lists. The NPA has no campaign, you fool. Greg Wilson ran it into the ground months ago and Hillman is doing everything to dig it back out of the dirt. Tough task considering how destructive this ignoramus Wilson is. Aided by the likes of Lynne Kennedy and the NPA administration's (non)braintrust with their noviceness and naivete, and there you have it. COPE/VV will self destruct eventually, mark my words. There are some things I know that you don't. Unfortunately, there all about Green and they won't come out until it's too late. Amazing that the electorate is so utterly stupid that they eat up the slop sink of lies and propaganda laid out by you fools on the left. Oh, and I would rank Mulroney (as many independent sources have) as the best modern day PM we've ever had. Yough to be liked when you are a so well spoken, extrememly wealthy, good looking and seem to have it all. Canadians are bred to hate that. That's why 20% percent of this country will always vote for the lazy way, welfare jockey loving NDP, who's Robbin'-in-the-hood will always keep them out of contention.

Crow, I heard the same thing about CC, but basically MM can do whatever he wants in the Grits, since he employed the same sysytem in this Province that delivered the delegate count to PM Dithers. He can write his own cheque basically, so getting Christy the Presidency should be a slam dunk. But don't forget that Uncle Mike Hillman loves both of them, so no loss to him, he's done it all anyway and is actually a very nice man, with a ton of expereince and personal integrity.

Peter obviously does not know the Indo Canadian Community well. Big cheques for Sullivan from there and lots of support. The Indo Canadian community has it's moderate to right voters so they all see Sam the same way and moved toward him. I know, as I arranged for much of it. So, once again, the bullshit is exposed.

Lots of left coasters trying to turn lies into the truth last couple of days.

Well, no worries dorkos! The NPA campaign is finished.....read the papers over the next week (couple of days).

All over but the crying.....and Sleeps is buying on the 19th., big time.

Gee..once again..you must be hanging with Jamie Lee..all that trash talk about Jim Green. Who would have thought you two would be on the same page.

As for Mulroney, you must live in a parallel universe where everything is opposite of this earth's reality. You said: "well spoken, extrememly wealthy, good looking and seem to have it all." The only thing you got right was the 'extremely' wealthy part and Canadians generally are in agreement about how that came to be.

While it's a bit early to be popping any corks I would like thank the NPA team, especially CC/MM and all their helpers..Santa knows you've been good and will treat you well this xmas..for a change. Mad props to all...and Greg..don't forget it's not over till it's over.

I may send a proxy to the JA on the 19th or just drop by for a few hundred quickies...I've just learned that the work less party party is having a freakfest at the union hall that night and I just got my invite...it's a costume gig and the angels and I can't resist those.

The more I think about Budd adjusting his buoyancy vest and clearing out his sinuses over some Cuban reef, the more I think he'd like it there. I mean, they've got one ancient white guy who has the answer to everything and everybody has to do what he says or else. What's not to like?

Once Again,

How is it that you sing the praises of Mike Hillman, and then trash the ethics of the Christy Clark campaign, which Mike Hillman ran?

How is it that you say that the Christy Clark campaign had so many "non-citizens" from the Indo Canadian community, and there were so few people who showed up to vote who were deemed ineligible?

Were you the one reviewing Christy's list and doing the ethnic cleansing? I thought that people were not supposed to have copies of that list until voting day? Wasn't that what the newspapers reported?

You must be quite the insider, Once Again.

From what I know, Christy signed up about 800 people from the Indo-Canadian community. That would account for about a third of the 2400 recruits, not 75% like you suggest.

My guess from being at the meeting was that only a couple hundred Indo Canadians came out to vote, given the location of voting, and the fact that it was only 4 hours downtown.

That means that 75% of Christy's support came from the non-Indo Canadian community.

I would suggest that she had the most diverse support base, from across the city. Young, old, rich, poor, East Van, West End, you name it.

Sam got slightly more than half of the Chinese vote, and did really well with the anti-Indo Canadian vote from Shaunessy. You know, the folks that are voting NPA already anyway.

Smart thinking, NPA!

I'm confused as well

There are poor NPA members? I knew that most NPA members were poor excuses for humanity but poor as in broke or indigent? There may be citizens on the east side who could be classified as poor but that would not include even one property owner..so I am quite frankly amazed that there are "poor" NPA members.

Have they been signing up mental patients en masse? Probably something like 3/4 of the membership.